Thread: IAEA: Documents linking Iran to nuclear weapons push may have been fabricated

Originally Posted by Ausinus

It is a nation controlled by radical muslims, that is all that needs to be said.

They are less radical than the Sunni regime in Saudi Arabia. And according to US Intelligence reports and the leading experts, the mullahs are "rational" and their "decisions are guided by a cost-benefit approach".

http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf

And you mean you actually intend to make a post that isn't just a copy paste of a random and uncredited news source? :whistling:

What news sources of mine are you trying to marginalize becouse you dont like the information?

Originally Posted by Horhey

They are less radical than the Sunni regime in Saudi Arabia. And according to US Intelligence reports and the leading experts, the mullahs are "rational" and their "decisions are guided by a cost-benefit approach".

http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf

What news sources of mine are you trying to marginalize becouse you dont like the information?

At least Saudi Arabia provides a valuable service to the world and is relatively amicable towards the west.

Originally Posted by Ausinus

At least Saudi Arabia provides a valuable service to the world and is relatively amicable towards the west.

In 2003, U.S. Spurned Iran's Offer of Dialogue

Some Officials Lament Lost Opportunity
By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 18, 2006; A16

Just after the lightning takeover of Baghdad by U.S. forces three years ago, an unusual two-page document spewed out of a fax machine at the Near East bureau of the State Department. It was a proposal from Iran for a broad dialogue with the United States, and the fax suggested everything was on the table -- including full cooperation on nuclear programs, acceptance of Israel and the termination of Iranian support for Palestinian militant groups.

But top Bush administration officials, convinced the Iranian government was on the verge of collapse, belittled the initiative. Instead, they formally complained to the Swiss ambassador who had sent the fax with a cover letter certifying it as a genuine proposal supported by key power centers in Iran, former administration officials said.

Last month, the Bush administration abruptly shifted policy and agreed to join talks previously led by European countries over Iran's nuclear program. But several former administration officials say the United States missed an opportunity in 2003 at a time when American strength seemed at its height -- and Iran did not have a functioning nuclear program or a gusher of oil revenue from soaring energy demand.

"At the time, the Iranians were not spinning centrifuges, they were not enriching uranium," said Flynt Leverett, who was a senior director on the National Security Council staff then and saw the Iranian proposal. He described it as "a serious effort, a respectable effort to lay out a comprehensive agenda for U.S.-Iranian rapprochement."


What We Wanted to Tell You About Iran





HERE is the redacted version of a draft Op-Ed article we wrote for The Times, as blacked out by the Central Intelligence Agency’s Publication Review Board after the White House intervened in the normal prepublication review process and demanded substantial deletions. Agency officials told us that they had concluded on their own that the original draft included no classified material, but that they had to bow to the White House.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/22/op...22precede.html



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Originally Posted by Ausinus

At least Saudi Arabia provides a valuable service to the world and is relatively amicable towards the west.

Aus, you're scarin' me now. Hello??? Anyone home?

Saudi Arabia, is the one who funds all those midrasas.

The ones where they teach the Wahabi version of Islam.

I'm talkin' about HERE, in the US. All those midrasas are funded by Saudi Arabia, my friend.

Those people aren't "amicable", they're greedy corrupt SCUMBAGS.

Now look: let's be very clear: you and I are both talking about GOVERNMENTS, right? Not PEOPLE, 'cause I mean, the Iranian PEOPLE, are very very nice. Most of 'em are even pro-West, they just don't wanna be f*cked with, like we screwed 'em back in the 50's when we set 'em up with the Shah, which resulted in the Savak and all those things they REBELLED against - just like WE are rebelling against Bushie's torture.

The People of Saudi Arabia though, seem to have no particular love for the West. It's only their GOVERNMENT that "seems to", and THAT's even dubious, given the "other" stuff they do.

Nah, Ausinus, I think someone's sold you a bill of goods on this one.

Maybe you want to check into this a little more.

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

Aus, you're scarin' me now. Hello??? Anyone home?

Saudi Arabia, is the one who funds all those midrasas.

The ones where they teach the Wahabi version of Islam.

I'm talkin' about HERE, in the US. All those midrasas are funded by Saudi Arabia, my friend.

Those people aren't "amicable", they're greedy corrupt SCUMBAGS.

Now look: let's be very clear: you and I are both talking about GOVERNMENTS, right? Not PEOPLE, 'cause I mean, the Iranian PEOPLE, are very very nice. Most of 'em are even pro-West, they just don't wanna be f*cked with, like we screwed 'em back in the 50's when we set 'em up with the Shah, which resulted in the Savak and all those things they REBELLED against - just like WE are rebelling against Bushie's torture.

The People of Saudi Arabia though, seem to have no particular love for the West. It's only their GOVERNMENT that "seems to", and THAT's even dubious, given the "other" stuff they do.

Nah, Ausinus, I think someone's sold you a bill of goods on this one.

Maybe you want to check into this a little more.

It's not that simple. Saudi Arabia is a US client state. The US controls the energy reserves, exploits the economy with their neoliberal programs and props up the regime. The US protects the regime from being overthrown by the population and that fuels the hatred for empire. It's a corrupt brutal regime. One of the worst.

Originally Posted by Horhey

Its obvious you watch too much TV. You dont know anything about Iran. Id be happy to quiz you.

They are aterrorist supporting radical Islamic republic, who have dedicated themselves to the distruction of Israel and the US. Thats all we need to know. Quiz Over. I hope your not mad that I gave away the answer.

Originally Posted by Tick

They are aterrorist supporting radical Islamic republic, who have dedicated themselves to the distruction of Israel and the US. Thats all we need to know. Quiz Over. I hope your not mad that I gave away the answer.

So, Ahmadinejad plans on dropping a nuclear bomb on Israel right?

Originally Posted by Tick

They are aterrorist supporting radical Islamic republic, who have dedicated themselves to the distruction of Israel and the US. Thats all we need to know. Quiz Over. I hope your not mad that I gave away the answer.

The United States supports islamic terrorist organizations. One of the terror groups even has links with Al Qaida. The point is, they're not terrorists if they serve US interests. In this case, these terrorist groups are targeting Iran, therefore the US supports them becouse they share a common enemy.

The US doesnt have a problem with terrorism itself. The US has supported alot of terrorist organizations, especially in Latin America. If you look at the record, the US "remains the world's most significant state sponsor of terrorism".

The government of Iran merits severe condemnation on many counts, but the Iranian threat remains a desperate construction of those who arrogate to themselves the right to rule the world, and consider any impediment to their just rule to be criminal aggression.

It's clear you are attempting to divert attention away from those squarely behind instigating another war they expect the U.S. to fight for them.

All the talk about everyone else, but very little talk about the Israelis and people like Joe turncoat Lieberman and the other Double agents working on behalf of the Israelis to use American blood and tax dollars for their evil wicked ambitions. The Israeli are the only ones that benefit from the wars, and laugh at how the stupid goy are so easily deceived by them. It's clear the Israelis want to fly into Iran and start a war just as they did in Iraq. Americans die and pay for the war, and the Israeli's benefit...Is that incredibly stupid or what?

Who controls the media? Who controls the economy? 3% of the population having that type of influence does anyone think this happens by chance or coincidence? These people have a huge problem for it is written even God hates Esau. This people have a one-way ticket into the bowels of hell and it's certain their will by those who will join them. It's one more chance to get it right before the real power takes over. The wicked deserve their fate, and all those that do not stand up for good. They will find all the trouble they looked for and keep finding it. Be real careful about what you hope for.

Originally Posted by Octoldit

It's clear you are attempting to divert attention away from those squarely behind instigating another war they expect the U.S. to fight for them.

All the talk about everyone else, but very little talk about the Israelis and people like Joe turncoat Lieberman and the other Double agents working on behalf of the Israelis to use American blood and tax dollars for their evil wicked ambitions. The Israeli are the only ones that benefit from the wars, and laugh at how the stupid goy are so easily deceived by them. It's clear the Israelis want to fly into Iran and start a war just as they did in Iraq. Americans die and pay for the war, and the Israeli's benefit...Is that incredibly stupid or what?

Who controls the media? Who controls the economy? 3% of the population having that type of influence does anyone think this happens by chance or coincidence? These people have a huge problem for it is written even God hates Esau. This people have a one-way ticket into the bowels of hell and it's certain their will by those who will join them. It's one more chance to get it right before the real power takes over. The wicked deserve their fate, and all those that do not stand up for good. They will find all the trouble they looked for and keep finding it. Be real careful about what you hope for.

Israel is a US client state becouse they share similar interests. The US doesnt support Israel just for the benefit of the Likud Party. The reasons Israel remains a US client state were explained by Obamas' mentor - Zbigniew Brzezinski..


"It has been America's favorite client state since approximately the mid - 1960's and has been the recipient of unprecedented American financial assistance ($80 billion since 1974). It has benefited from almost solitary American protection against UN disapprobation or sanctions. As the dominant military power in the Middle East, Israel has the potential, in the event of a major regional crisis, not only to be America's military base but also to make a significant contribution to any required US military engagement."

-Zbigniew Brzezinski, Hegemonic Quicksand The National Interest Winter 2003/04

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