Thread: lambasting Palin - RNC making fools of themselves AGAIN!

For the Republicans this is all they know how to do. It took us awhile to learn how to deal with it too. Strategies will change. As for the Republicans, they are resiliant as are Democrats. Inevitably they will be back. We can only prolong Democratic leadership as long as we govern from the center and not try to punish those who disagree with us. Now that's national politics.

As far as the forum goes well, that's why there is a forum.

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

No one ever asked George W Bush to go torture anyone. He did that on his OWN, in contravention of EVERY SINGLE LAW KNOWN TO MAN!!!

That, is unacceptable. That is NOT representative government. That is ABUSE OF POWER, is what it is.

And, that is the problem with the Republican Party right now, in a nutshell: ABUSE OF POWER.

Right, and torture is a perfect example- even McCain... let me say this again- even MCCAIN succumbed to the party and abandoned his principle on torture, letting the CIA use means of torture that contradict everything this country professes about due process and torture.

But they "hate us for our freedom". Yeah right. I'm sure that mindless excuse keeps the hawks from looking in the mirror. They hate us because we are a giant contradiction.

Pal, that is BANKRUPT morality, right? See what I'm sayin'? If your morality is the first thing that goes out the window when you got a problem, then I suggest, that you're really NOT fit to be a representative of the American People. I would HOPE, that We the People are more "conscious" than that, to where we would sell our souls in the name of a few pennies. Benedict Arnold did that, and I mean, he is NOT a well liked figure in history.

It's hard to fathom how anyone was not skeptical of Bush in the early stages of his 2000 campaign. he threw around tag lines like "compassionate conservatism", "uniter, not a divider", "we shouldn't police the world", and things like that.

Originally Posted by 2lane

For the Republicans this is all they know how to do.

It's a political party. It changes with the times, like anything. The Dems laughed when the Republicans were promoting family values. Now the Dems are doing the same thing they made fun of.

Unless you honestly think Republicans are programmed and take secret oaths of belief and stay the same, how can you anticipate what they will do?

The word is not the thing man.

It's just a label. it's up to the people to determine what the party will be.

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

It's a political party. It changes with the times, like anything. The Dems laughed when the Republicans were promoting family values. Now the Dems are doing the same thing they made fun of.

I don't understand km. I don't remember any Democrats laughing at Family Values. I do however remember laughing at Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson because of the laughable moronic TV preachers they are, and were, God Bless. You remember that time right? Reagan and Evangelicals found common ground in removing the separation between church and state. Then wrapped up "Family Values"with "Just say No" making it the ultimate nosey meddling Christian takeover aimed at controlling the personal lives of Americans. .

I don't get what Obamas' done that ressembles Reagan Family Values?

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

Unless you honestly think Republicans are programmed and take secret oaths of belief and stay the same, how can you anticipate what they will do? The word is not the thing man.
It's just a label. it's up to the people to determine what the party will be.

No, the RNC is making fools of themselves. You didn't see this kind of fingerpointing and "he said she said" after Kerry or Gore amongst Democrats. I'll spare you my rant on Palin's intelligence because I'm sure you can guess how I come down on that issue.

But maybe you can tall me why Fox News knew about this for a month or two, but promised not to break the story till after the election? I didn't know that the fair and balanced press would hold back relevant stories to an election untill a campaign says it's ok. Where would we be if Woodward and Bernstein didn't report Watergate till 1976? Could Fox be in the tank for Republicans?:jawdrop: But this has nothing to do with Democrats in the slightest way. This is Republican on Republican character assassination.

Who stands to gain? Republicans embarressed by Palin?, I can sure understand that. Snarky McCain/Palin handlers? Staffers out for revenge?, and why would anyone do this if she was totaly innocent?

The RNC, Fox, and Palin are not all being completely honest. Republicans are lying here km and you can't blame it on Clinton or Democrats, even though that might feel Oh so right:whistling:

Originally Posted by Goldwater

The RNC, Fox, and Palin are not all being completely honest. Republicans are lying here km and you can't blame it on Clinton or Democrats, even though that might feel Oh so right

Do you see me blaming anyone? It's a natural cycle. Let me explain it again.

Party takes over

Thinks it has a mandate

Overplays its hand and gets arrogant

Loses power

The next party takes over.

The real trick is to see how long you can stay humble, have some principles, stick to your principles and realize you are supposed to be doing the people's business. On the spending front, the chief Bush mistake has not been the war, but not using the veto pen, not saying no enough, silly ideas like the "prescription drug benefit". The arrogance was in thinking you could buy enough votes from the other side to stay in power.

All the rest of it the twist of change and some people loving it and other people flailing around because of it.

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

Do you see me blaming anyone? It's a natural cycle. Let me explain it again.

Party takes over

Thinks it has a mandate

Overplays its hand and gets arrogant

Loses power

The next party takes over.

The real trick is to see how long you can stay humble, have some principles, stick to your principles and realize you are supposed to be doing the people's business. On the spending front, the chief Bush mistake has not been the war, but not using the veto pen, not saying no enough, silly ideas like the "prescription drug benefit". The arrogance was in thinking you could buy enough votes from the other side to stay in power.

All the rest of it the twist of change and some people loving it and other people flailing around because of it.

The Republican party was arrogant from day one with the Bush Administration. They swaggered into the white house and have been swaggering ever since.

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

Do you see me blaming anyone? It's a natural cycle. Let me explain it again.

I guess I'm a little dense and still don't quite get the bolded statement

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

Originally Posted by kmiller1610
It's a political party. It changes with the times, like anything. The Dems laughed when the Republicans were promoting family values. Now the Dems are doing the same thing they made fun of.

Originally Posted by Devil505

The Republicans have made their choice & that is to be the party of Caucasians only, right wing religious fanatics, the elderly & dumb/uneducated white trash.Obviously..........not a winning base for a national party anymore.

This country moved beyond them years ago....& they won't be missed! :therethere:

What about the super wealthy and successful. You know the ones people always bitch about?

Originally Posted by Goldwater

I guess I'm a little dense and still don't quite get the bolded statement [/i]

Obama has moved away, at least somewhat, from the victim's only rhetoric. He has been talking family responsibilities. This used to be a cause for accusing the Republicans of coldheartedness. Many southern Democrats have adopted far more conservative, family oriented positions and talking points. There's nothing wrong with adopting the other guy's positions to solidify your own position. That's sort of my point. Nothing is set in stone.

This statement from Obama very similar to the "family values" credo of the 80s.
And that's good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLcdRDaKulg

I love having the last word.