Thread: When will the religious right stop controlling the Republican party?

The religious right hasn't been controlling the Republican party for very long, about 15 years or so. Does anyone think they will continue to dominate the Republican party, or will logical sane Republicans take back their party?

The Religious Right hasn't controlled anything. Perhaps they're finally waking up now to find out they'd been used by Bush & the GOP.

Used by Bush? The guy is a born again christian. Most of the Republican leadership share the same "values" of the religious right.

The religious right can only control things when a majority of the country doesn't vote. It seems to me that's what is changing. More people are starting to vote and the evangelicals are losing their power because most people view them as nut jobs.

Originally Posted by Formative Years

Used by Bush? The guy is a born again christian. Most of the Republican leadership share the same "values" of the religious right.

Proof? Why hasn't abortion-on-demand ended in America with 6 years of Republican dominance in Washington? The only issues the Religious Right wins on are those that happen to coincide with AIPAC.

The answer is yes, when Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson tried to have Pat Robertson run for President and seem to garner votes. Reagan lured the Moral Majority into government and Republican land.

Evangelicals have been riding high for years, defending babies, defending the institution of marriage, making sure 17 year old girls abstain from sex, and waging God's war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The self important attitude really sunk in to become a way of life. Second fiddle will cause evangelicals to get cocky again and we'll see a Moral Majority type organization emerge seperate from the Republican party who can no longer support thier strict dogma. Palin though...? Maybe we'll see the birth of the George Wallace memorial party.

Originally Posted by Defensor

Proof? Why hasn't abortion-on-demand ended in America with 6 years of Republican dominance in Washington? The only issues the Religious Right wins on are those that happen to coincide with AIPAC.

Because they know it would be political suicide. They're not stupid, well at least not the people they elect into office.

It would probably take at least seven hard line anti abortion nominations to the Supreme Court to get Roe V. Wade reversed.

That is because respect for precedent would probably keep at least a couple of anti abortion justices from voting to overturn it.

Even overturning Roe V. Wade would not end abortion on demand. About half the states would certainly still allow it.

Originally Posted by Dayton3

It would probably take at least seven hard line anti abortion nominations to the Supreme Court to get Roe V. Wade reversed.

That is because respect for precedent would probably keep at least a couple of anti abortion justices from voting to overturn it.

Even overturning Roe V. Wade would not end abortion on demand. About half the states would certainly still allow it.

Congress has the power to take this matter out of the jurisdiction of the courts. Dr. Ron Paul proposed the bill, numerous times in fact. The Republican-controlled Congress did nothing.

Originally Posted by Formative Years

The religious right hasn't been controlling the Republican party for very long, about 15 years or so. Does anyone think they will continue to dominate the Republican party, or will logical sane Republicans take back their party?

Is that the same as the religous (athiest religon) left controlling the Democratic party?

Originally Posted by Goldwater

The answer is yes, when Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson tried to have Pat Robertson run for President and seem to garner votes. Reagan lured the Moral Majority into government and Republican land.

Evangelicals have been riding high for years, defending babies, defending the institution of marriage, making sure 17 year old girls abstain from sex, and waging God's war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The self important attitude really sunk in to become a way of life. Second fiddle will cause evangelicals to get cocky again and we'll see a Moral Majority type organization emerge seperate from the Republican party who can no longer support thier strict dogma. Palin though...? Maybe we'll see the birth of the George Wallace memorial party.

Hey Goldie, you found your way back? Is it so wrong to stand for what a person believes is right. Really. If a person is a christian, does that make irrelavent their point of view. Is that not what America is all about. The freedom of religon, and the freedom of association, and the freedom to petition the government with grevences, would you hold dear those rights, would you deny those rights to others because they have a religous conviction? Is not the debate process the forum for making know all sides of an issue. Or does separation of state and church invalidate non-secular values. I would submit that even the staunchest athiest is influenced in his heart by what he beleives, and that should not hold more waight because being an athiest is percieved as being non- religous, but, I would further submit that atheism is as much a religon as Islam or buddism or christianity.