Thread: The New Neo-Con Reality

Originally Posted by Ronin Tetsuro

Zeitgeist - The Movie

Learn something.

Learn what? Fairytales without any valid references?

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

I will answer your question in a separate thread.

Um... Tick, did you ever read "Lord of the Flies"?

The concept is, a ruler who rules "nothing" - the Overlord of "Nothing".

Dude, there's nothin' there to be "ruled" anymore. George W Bush is now the ruler of "nothing". Whatever he "thought" he was in charge of, it isn't there anymore.

Now he's just a guy who's SO f'in dangerous, that the entire country is keepin' a watchful eye on him to make sure he doesn't try to screw up AGAIN before he has to leave office.

The emperor has no clothes, Tick. Never did.

I have read lord of the flies. But, I am more concerned with the communist manifesto.

Originally Posted by Desidude666

I saw that Zeitgeist movie too - thought it was a little too fictitious. This is conspiracy theory at the core. If there is something you don't like - simple. Don't vote. America cannot open it's borders if it doesn't vote on it.

No vote, no union. And we'd never see a China-run Asian union ever, because it cannot exist due to political differences.

Err, I guess you did not see it, or maybe you did not recognize all the worlds leaders calling for a one world government and currency.

Originally Posted by michaelr

Err, I guess you did not see it, or maybe you did not recognize all the worlds leaders calling for a one world government and currency.

He saw it, but he did not understand it. Which is fine. Explains why he has so little to say about it.

They just released a new one called Zeitgeist:Addendum. Talks about the monetary system and why it must give way to something better. I fully expect it would explode the brains of more than a few here. I've gone back and forth on creating a discussion thread about it here, but sadly some of the best minds on the site are too far entrenched in false values to objectively discuss it.

Originally Posted by Ronin Tetsuro

He saw it, but he did not understand it. Which is fine. Explains why he has so little to say about it.

They just released a new one called Zeitgeist:Addendum. Talks about the monetary system and why it must give way to something better. I fully expect it would explode the brains of more than a few here. I've gone back and forth on creating a discussion thread about it here, but sadly some of the best minds on the site are too far entrenched in false values to objectively discuss it.

I have a few problems with the new Zeitgeist, their stand on Christianity is NWO all the way. A one world spiritual influence if you will. We know that is what the NWO wants and it is anything but Christianity.

Originally Posted by michaelr

I have a few problems with the new Zeitgeist, their stand on Christianity is NWO all the way. A one world spiritual influence if you will. We know that is what the NWO wants and it is anything but Christianity.

Okay, I'll start a thread, because now I want to discuss this with you.

EDIT: http://www.ballot.com/hotwire/28429-...tml#post714719

Originally Posted by michaelr

Err, I guess you did not see it, or maybe you did not recognize all the worlds leaders calling for a one world government and currency.

I saw it when it was all the talk of the town for a while, I think it's the same guy who did that Jesus movie, in which he questions the historical jesus and then gets kicked out of the school.

In Zeitgeist, you have the relation of Yeshua with the Sun, and then connections with other myths around at that time, assuming plagiarism. Then it goes on with 9/11 conspiracy followed by US-Mexico-Canada union thing. It also explores financial conspiracy and how the Federal reserve is not supposed to exist and was brought about for the sake of the Morgans and so forth.

I saw this like a year ago, but let's get some things straight. We are not merely seeking to believe everything we see, we want to believe what we see. The documentary was a very badly done one - it didn't have any valid references at all. When he implied Morgans or Chase behind the banking affair of the Great Depression, he doesn't even bother interviewing the people he is accusing. And besides, there isn't hard evidence. If you take this video to court, they'd throw it back at you because there are no references or hard evidence.

It's like me saying that I am a part of the New World Order and am spying over you guys so I could assess the extent of your belief over our created reality. How stupid is this?! Exactly the same thing, anyone can say anything because we don't need evidence or demand evidence because we want to believe.

I really suggest post graduate level courses on politics/economics and you'd really understand why this is impossible. Once you assess the chaos group's (Sweden) research who found that out of 100% of the world's projects conducted, worth about 1/4 of the world's GDP, only 31% have been successful. Just 31% out of 100%, for projects! Can you imagine the statistical impossibility of central control over so many variables?! It's mathematically impossible!

Originally Posted by Desidude666

I saw it when it was all the talk of the town for a while, I think it's the same guy who did that Jesus movie, in which he questions the historical jesus and then gets kicked out of the school.

In Zeitgeist, you have the relation of Yeshua with the Sun, and then connections with other myths around at that time, assuming plagiarism. Then it goes on with 9/11 conspiracy followed by US-Mexico-Canada union thing. It also explores financial conspiracy and how the Federal reserve is not supposed to exist and was brought about for the sake of the Morgans and so forth.

I saw this like a year ago, but let's get some things straight. We are not merely seeking to believe everything we see, we want to believe what we see. The documentary was a very badly done one - it didn't have any valid references at all. When he implied Morgans or Chase behind the banking affair of the Great Depression, he doesn't even bother interviewing the people he is accusing. And besides, there isn't hard evidence. If you take this video to court, they'd throw it back at you because there are no references or hard evidence.

It's like me saying that I am a part of the New World Order and am spying over you guys so I could assess the extent of your belief over our created reality. How stupid is this?! Exactly the same thing, anyone can say anything because we don't need evidence or demand evidence because we want to believe.

I really suggest post graduate level courses on politics/economics and you'd really understand why this is impossible. Once you assess the chaos group's (Sweden) who found that out of 100% of the world's projects conducted, worth about 1/4 of the world's GDP, only 31% have been successful. Just 31% out of 100%, for projects! Can you imagine the statistical impossibility of central control over so many variables?! It's mathematically impossible!

Of course, your right, there is no NWO, have fun.

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

I will answer your question in a separate thread.

Um... Tick, did you ever read "Lord of the Flies"?

The concept is, a ruler who rules "nothing" - the Overlord of "Nothing".

Dude, there's nothin' there to be "ruled" anymore. George W Bush is now the ruler of "nothing". Whatever he "thought" he was in charge of, it isn't there anymore.

Now he's just a guy who's SO f'in dangerous, that the entire country is keepin' a watchful eye on him to make sure he doesn't try to screw up AGAIN before he has to leave office.

The emperor has no clothes, Tick. Never did.

Excellent insight. What made the the US great and made the office of the President of the US the most prestigious of all nations leaders has been horribly diminished if not outright destroyed by the man and the men and women who have "governed" but failed to lead with him.

Nonsqtr Tick is from the neocon side of the Republican party which has finally been rejected by the east coast elite intellictual side (conservative) of the Rebpublican party. They've had enough too, is it too late?

Originally Posted by Desidude666

I saw that Zeitgeist movie too - thought it was a little too fictitious. This is conspiracy theory at the core. If there is something you don't like - simple. Don't vote. America cannot open it's borders if it doesn't vote on it.

Why is the term, "conspiracy theory" stigmatized and written off? What should be written off is groupthink that assumes all conspiracy theories have no basis.

No vote, no union. And we'd never see a China-run Asian union ever, because it cannot exist due to political differences.

What kind of political differences would break the deal?