Thread: Why not to vote McCain

A section from a very good article written by a retired Lt. General. it brings to light one of the major reasons I don't like the guy, no movement, he's an old MF stuck in his ways and that's not what we need now.

Why I Won't Vote for John McCain
Some people have been surprised by General Colin Powell's endorsement of Barack Obama. How could Powell, who served in several Republican administrations, endorse a Democrat over John McCain, a storied war hero?

As a lifelong military man, I too will be casting my vote for Barack Obama on Election Day. I deeply respect John McCain's service to our country. I admire his bravery as a prisoner of war, described by a fellow prisoner as similar to that demonstrated by hundreds of other U.S. prisoners in North Vietnam.

The fields of foreign and national security policy, however, are John McCain's disqualifying weaknesses, in my view. McCain has demonstrated clearly that he is a dedicated ideologue when it comes to foreign policy, unwilling to consider opinions or even credible evidence contrary to his preconceived notions.

His temperament, marked not only by impatience but also by rude and sometimes hostile behavior, would discourage advisors from bringing to his attention views that might not be consistent with his preconceptions. A President with this combination of significant shortcomings would be a dangerous commander-in-chief, posing an unacceptable risk to the security of the nation.

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A few months ago, I met in a small group with Senator Obama in his office to discuss a contentious security issue. People with different, even opposite, views had been invited to attend. Obama listened carefully and asked penetrating questions, confirming my observations concerning his intelligence and temperament.

I believe that Barack Obama possesses the requisite qualifications to serve far more effectively as President of the United States and commander-in-chief of the U.S. military than his opponent, John McCain.


Lt. General Robert G. Gard Jr. (USA, Ret.): Why I Won't Vote for John McCain

McCain does not have the intelligence or temperament to be a good president, period.

The temperament issue is very important, perhaps more than 90% of the issues raised about McCain and more substantive. If McCain was running against a more moderate Democrat, I would consider voting Democrat. In fact, in a Richardson vs McCain match-up, I would probably vote Richardson.

But McCain is running against a man who has NEVER been under the pressure of governance and is a strong liberal.

So, I will still vote McCain as the lesser of two evils.

I wish we could have psych profiles, in-box tests and motivational assessments of all these guys. It would help. With the information I have in hand, I am still voting McCain.

But if you have something more than Powell's opinion, please provide.

Good reasons not to vote for McCain. Barr and Baldwin should pick up a lot of votes then.

Hmm. Ok I'll play your silly game. My guess is because he's a democrat.

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

The temperament issue is very important, perhaps more than 90% of the issues raised about McCain and more substantive. If McCain was running against a more moderate Democrat, I would consider voting Democrat. In fact, in a Richardson vs McCain match-up, I would probably vote Richardson.

But McCain is running against a man who has NEVER been under the pressure of governance and is a strong liberal.

So, I will still vote McCain as the lesser of two evils.

I wish we could have psych profiles, in-box tests and motivational assessments of all these guys. It would help. With the information I have in hand, I am still voting McCain.

But if you have something more than Powell's opinion, please provide.

So you are going to vote for the close-minded 72 yr old MF that will probably start half his arguements with advisors with.... "In my 25 yrs in the senate........".

I don't give a shit about your 25 yrs in the senate old man. I want you to be a smart MF, alive and alert to the world around you and willing to listen. Instead of just a friggin politician, how about we try somebody who is really smart for a change.

Your fear of him not having enough experience in Washington is chickenshit. He lead a pretty damn flawless campaign and has kicked the shit out of a couple big contenders. To say he does not have experience is pretty foolish. The guy is brilliant and ready and many if not a majority of the brightest minds agree. He will listen and he will make the wise choices. McCains the old geezer down the street who yells at the kids walking across his lawn. I don't understand why someone would want an arrogant old fuck like that in the Whitehouse.

You say you would vote Richardson over McCain and I would too. Richardson is definately a smart guy who not only has Foreign policy experience but years as a governor. Why doesn't he have a problem with Obama's experience? You think you know Obama as well as he does? I think you should vote for who he's voting for.

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

But if you have something more than Powell's opinion, please provide.

Uh, it wasn't Powell's opinion.

Originally Posted by Bluegrass

Uh, it wasn't Powell's opinion.

We've been over this; reading comprehension is not the strong suit of the apologist.

Gotta say I agree with the OP. We've had 8 years of hothead bully tactics, time for another tack.

So you believe, that what we "need now" is in inexperienced Junior Senator with Marxist sentiments, who is running a campaign fraught with voter fraud, a completely substance free platform other than a policy of seizing the wealth of productive citizens and a megalomaniac self image.

But you also believe that "McCain does not have the intelligence or temperament to be a good president."

Oh my.

Please do continue to express your opinions with at least equal eloquence. Little serves the interest of Conservatism more than Liberal Expression.

It's unfortunately the lesser of two evils but you also have to consider future supreme court nominations. Elect a politician that has years of experience or a thinly veiled unacomplished socialist demagogue that has real issues with our current Constitution.

Obama stated that the Constituion was a charter of negative liberties and refered to the Warren court as less than radical. How on Earth can he in good conscience swear to uphold our current Constitution ?

Something else to consider:

There's been a lot of talk about how Obama will roll over for terrorists and other such malarky, but take the 'evidence' from the OP into consideration. Obama willingly invites experts of all loyalties into the fold to provide opinion, thereby giving him the best feasible chance to make a decision based on all the evidence available.

McCain is old guard, 90% in line with the Bush Doctrine. In a time where Allies are few and turning, often hard to know and establish. Those true enemies of our country know our entire Cold War playbook, and if we were to field McCain with that strategy, I can assure you we'd get slaughtered in more ways than you might imagine.