Thread: Why does the government want to reform health insurance in America?

What do you think?

http://covertheuninsured.org/content...acts-uninsured

Call me naive,



because Americans want health insurance available at something remotely fair, regulated and affordable - such as every other developed nation on Earth has had since the 50's. And Americans vote for who sits in the government.

[quote name='The_Bear' date='22 January 2010 - 09:07 AM' timestamp='1264169271' post='103394']

What do you think?

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Why does the government? Well who's the government? Becuause the Republicans don't want to do anything except let the monopolies go across state boarders.



The Democrats have always wanted to do this. Its a hold-over policy from the New/Fair Deal. My short, imcomplete synopsis of that was that the Government would redefine its relationship with the people, and what

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States

atually means. Prior it was generally defense in war. I think they wanted to get back to the spirit of community with the New Deal and say "look the only reason we have a government is to achieve mutual goals. Otherwise we'd live alone in the woods."



To me personally, everyone having health care improves business in the country, not because of the cost burden being lifted, but it creates a more equal startpoint for the populace as a whole. It keeps us a relativly healthy, working, industrius population who's bloodline doesn't die off when an illness claims worker, family, home, and community.

[quote name='TheHangingChad' date='22 January 2010 - 10:14 AM' timestamp='1264176864' post='103439']

Becuause the Republicans don't want to do anything except let the monopolies go across state boarders.

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You have that backwards. It is by restricting health care providers to those within the state that you create a monopoly. If you only have 3 or 6 providers that State law allows you to choice from, there is no incentive on their part to be competitive; if, however, you have 2600 you can select from then the incentive to compete becames a necessity.



[quote name='TheHangingChad' date='22 January 2010 - 10:14 AM' timestamp='1264176864' post='103439']

The Democrats have always wanted to do this. Its a hold-over policy from the New/Fair Deal. My short, imcomplete synopsis of that was that the Government would redefine its relationship with the people, and what a[c]tually means. Prior it was generally defense in war. I think they wanted to get back to the spirit of community with the New Deal and say "look the only reason we have a government is to achieve mutual goals. Otherwise we'd live alone in the woods."

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First off, the purpose of the Federal government is spelled out in the preable to the Constitution; these purposes are "form a more perfect Union", "establish Justice", "insure domestic Tranquility", "provide for the common defence", "promote the general Welfare", and "secure the Blessings of Liberty". "...achieve mutual goals" is not a function of the Federal government, that is in the sole domain of the States, and the people. The Federal government is there to ensure that we have an equal, impartial, consistant and secure chance at fulfilling our goals in a lawful manner.



Secondly, the New Deal was not about "spirit of community", it was nothing less then the national government taking control of what was once the perview of the local communities by using the pretense that it was what was "best for the nation".



[quote name='TheHangingChad' date='22 January 2010 - 10:14 AM' timestamp='1264176864' post='103439']

To me personally, everyone having health care improves business in the country, not because of the cost burden being lifted, but it creates a more equal startpoint for the populace as a whole. It keeps us a relativly healthy, working, industrius population who's bloodline doesn't die off when an illness claims worker, family, home, and community.

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Everyone having health care would be a good thing, but it is your responsibility and decision to obtain it ... not the governments to mandate that you have it, or to force your employers to provide it.

Who on this site has employer based health insurance?



Who knows how much is spent on their personal healthplan from their employers insurance company?



I'll go first. My annual health insurance tab is $24,000 plus 10% as of 1-1-10, whatever that is. It is the second largest expense for my employer after payroll. I work for a hospital.



How much more now do you think you're paying for healthcare knowing the above? And thats just a small part of the equation.



Does that help you understand at least in part the OP question?



I predict that the currest system will collapse within 5 years. Insurance companies are just trying to milk it for as long as they can, they know its going down, sooner than later.