Thread: Biden Meets With Saakashvili, Pledges American Support

Biden Meets With Saakashvili, Pledges American Support

Sen. Joe Biden met with Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili Friday in Milwaukee, pledging American support for Georgia and promising not to "let the intentions of the Russian government to bring down the democratically-elected government" of Georgia.

Biden and Saakashvili met privately for about 45 minutes, but, despite an Associated Press report to the contrary, members of Biden's traveling press pool were in fact permitted in for a five-minute portion beforehand, giving reporters a chance to hear from the two long-time friends.

"We're old friends, we've known each other for some time," said Biden. "Before President Saakashvili was president, we knew one another and we had been in close contact before and during and after Russia tried to topple a democratically-elected government."

In the midst of rampant speculation that he was about to be named as Sen. Barack Obama's running mate, Biden traveled to the war-torn region in early August.

"When the invasion was taking place, I spoke to the president and asked whether I could come to Tbilisi and I was happy to do that and thought it was important to show American solidarity and support. We will not let, we will not let the intentions of the Russian government to bring down a democratically-elected government."

Biden said that he assured Saakashvili over dinner in the Georgian capital that the United States would "make a considerable commitment in the economic well-being and stability in Georgia."

The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee warned that the Russian invasion was also aimed at intimidating other former Soviet bloc countries.

"The intent was to also intimidate the entire former Soviet Union, as the Americans think of it, independent countries all along the border," he said.

A grateful Georgian leader thanked Biden for his trip at such a vital time.

"You flew all the way through a lot more than half of the world to the city that was being bombarded at that moment," said Saakashvili. "It was a very, very, very great decision of yours and in the middle of the whole presidential expectations surrounding you - vice-presidential expectations - and still basically you came straight into the middle of the conflict and did something that was very brave of you. And very few people would have done that. And I certainly will not forget that. And my people are not going to forget it. And we will never forget your solidarity and generosity."

"I think what is important is that you understand so well what is at stake for America, for freedom, for democracy, for your interests as well as for the values that America has and for which America is so respected," continued the Georgian president. "I think we have lots of generosity and solidarity from American people and worldwide, lots of sympathy, but you were the first one to come up with a very concrete program of what should have been done in that very complicated situation."
Biden emphasized that Russia must "pay a price" for their actions.

"What we've been talking about and what we'll continue to talk about is our effort to see to it that they do not succeed," concluded Biden. "It's important Russians pay a price for what they've done."
"I'm really proud to call you my friend and to call you a friend of my people, my region," stated Saakashvili.

Hmm, why is Sarah Palin crucified for being an idiot on foreign policy while clearly Joe Biden is just as much one, if not more so? These comments are as dumb and as dangerous as anything Palin said. Or is it that everyone just knows that Biden is deliberately lying like the dishonest sleazebag that he is?

Biden is interested in solidifying our international alliances and assuring former eastern bloc countries and our NATO allies that we stand with them against the Russian thugs.

Biden is an expert at foreign policy and he'll compliment President Obama.

Originally Posted by Bourne

Biden is interested in solidifying our international alliances and assuring former eastern bloc countries and our NATO allies that we stand with them against the Russian thugs.

Biden is interested in LYING about that war criminal punk Saakashvili's sneak attack on South Ossetia to justify antagonizing Russia and expanding the global empire.

Biden is an expert at foreign policy and he'll compliment President Obama.

Biden is either an idiot or a liar. I'm not sure which, but it makes no difference to me.

Joe Biden killed any idea that there would be real "change" from a President Obama.

Originally Posted by Bourne

Biden is interested in solidifying our international alliances and assuring former eastern bloc countries and our NATO allies that we stand with them against the Russian thugs.

Biden is an expert at foreign policy and he'll compliment President Obama.

Are you dizzy, explain one time why the Russian's are thugs.

Originally Posted by michaelr

Are you dizzy, explain one time why the Russian's are thugs.

An excellent example would be the atrocities committed by Putin's thugs in Chechnya.

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2000/06/02/russia611.htm

Originally Posted by Bourne

An excellent example would be the atrocities committed by Putin's thugs in Chechnya.

I agree that Russia has been heavy handed in Chechnya, not unlike this country in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, and spots inbetween. That said, what does that have to do with Georgia, where is your out rage at the million plus dead in Iraq, the countless dead in the aboved mentioned countries. Russia is not our enemy, and would like nothing better than to trade with this country. That will not be done as it may give them an economical advantage, and we do not allow that. Instead this government along with their media demonize such countries and turns what could be a normal person into a blithering idiot spewing stupid like slogans like "Those Russian thugs". Hell man I suggest we clean house before throwing rocks at others.

Mike, you asked the question...

Originally Posted by michaelr

Are you dizzy, explain one time why the Russian's are thugs.

And I provided you with an answer, Chechnya, as an example of Russian thuggery. The same thuggery that the US and NATO will prevent in the former Soviet republics.

Comparing the widespread atrocities committed by Russia in Chechnya to isolated coalition behavior in Iraq and Afghanistan is ridiculous. First, citing coalition atrocities as somehow vindicating Russian behavior is irrational. Secondly, unlike coalition countries, Russia has yet to investigate the atrocities which it has committed. Third, Russia continues to threaten our ally Georgia.

Originally Posted by Bourne

Mike, you asked the question...



And I provided you with an answer, Chechnya, as an example of Russian thuggery. The same thuggery that the US and NATO will prevent in the former Soviet republics.

Comparing the widespread atrocities committed by Russia in Chechnya to isolated coalition behavior in Iraq and Afghanistan is ridiculous. First, citing coalition atrocities as somehow vindicating Russian behavior is irrational. Secondly, unlike coalition countries, Russia has yet to investigate the atrocities which it has committed. Third, Russia continues to threaten our ally Georgia.

You have to be kidding me, man Iraq alone equals Chechnya, we killing in Pakistan now, and support AQ attacks in Iran. I wont even touch Africa, hells bells. Secondly it is the US, NATO, and Georgia that is provoking Russia, hell it's to the point Russia felt the need to place ships and aircraft in the hemisphere. I think shits about ready to hit the fan, and I think is is extremely important to cut through the lies and look at whats really happening. I am no big fan of Russia, but I don't see them as evil either.

Originally Posted by michaelr

You have to be kidding me, man Iraq alone equals Chechnya, we killing in Pakistan now, and support AQ attacks in Iran. I wont even touch Africa, hells bells. Secondly it is the US, NATO, and Georgia that is provoking Russia, hell it's to the point Russia felt the need to place ships and aircraft in the hemisphere. I think shits about ready to hit the fan, and I think is is extremely important to cut through the lies and look at whats really happening. I am no big fan of Russia, but I don't see them as evil either.

Mike, once again you're off on one of your irrational tirads. Saying that the Russians aren't thugs just demonstrates how ill informed you are and how you seem to take great pride in denegrating the US at any opportunity.

As I've said, there is no reasonable way that you can compare the outright civilian massacre in Chechnya, including the rape and torture of women and children, to combat related collateral deaths in Iraq and Aghanistan. But you carry on talking up your good buddies the Russians.

Originally Posted by Bourne

Mike, once again you're off on one of your irrational tirads. Saying that the Russians aren't thugs just demonstrates how ill informed you are and how you seem to take great pride in denegrating the US at any opportunity.

As I've said, there is no reasonable way that you can compare the outright civilian massacre in Chechnya, including the rape and torture of women and children, to combat related collateral deaths in Iraq and Aghanistan. But you carry on talking up your good buddies the Russians.

Are you nuts? Are you saying that Iraq had a million plus army. Speak of irrational! We killed or are responsible for 100s of thousands of civilians, we torture, we kidnap, were in shit deep of evil. Reread my post and show me where I said Russians weren't thugs, I just think we have enough of our shit to clean up before casting stones and starting more unnecessary wars of aggression.