Thread: what do conservatives REALLY want?

Conservatives today, seem to have no use for government.

They, it seems, consider that government can't do anything right.

They place their stock in the free market, and not in the government.

They don't seem to mind too much, when the President circumvents the Constitution in the name of expediency.

And, they hide from the law and public scrutiny at every turn.

So now, it occurs to me, that many conservatives might be entirely much happier, if there were no such things as the US government, and the world was run entirely by corporations.

The reality here, is that the US government has a difficult time maintaining itself in a global environment, in any other way than through economic control. That reality, has just been impressed upon us by the Islamic extremists. Nuclear weapons are useless against them.

And, from the government's standpoint, a world in which there are "many" corporations that are more powerful than the US government, is untenable.

And then, furthermore, if some two-bit Arab terrorist can get nuclear components, then so can a rogue corporation. And THEY, could be considerably more effective in delivering it.

So, am I sniffing something here, resembling a "shift in allegiance"?

And, if we are entering a world in which government and corporations are one and the same, then HOW does that dovetail with conservative principles of "small government"? Corporations verticalize, don't they?

How about "fiscal sanity"? The nature of corporate business is to cut costs at the bottom and leave plenty of headroom at the top.

How about "strong defense posture"? North American Union?

What do conservatives REALLY want?

There is no use for government.

Originally Posted by Defensor

There is no use for government.

Yeah there is - to promote the general welfare and to secure the blessings of liberty. :laughing:

Anarchism is a bullshit political ideology akin to communism.

Strong Military - a federal responsibility

Protection for religious freedom and expression (bye bye national enforced religions of secular humanism and environmentalism)

Freedom from excess controls and regulations that strangle entrepreneurship

Minimal federal involvement in the charity business

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

Strong Military - a federal responsibility

Protection for religious freedom and expression (bye bye national enforced religions of secular humanism and environmentalism)

Freedom from excess controls and regulations that strangle entrepreneurship

Minimal federal involvement in the charity business

I've been getting quite an education, kmiller.

Are you familiar with the Uniform Commercial Code?

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

What do conservatives REALLY want?

1. Cheerleaders.
2. Neighbors that wave when you drive by.
3. Miss Landers.
4. An end to music where they can't understand the words.
5. 68 Chevelle SSs'...me too on this one.
6. A family doctor that birthed all your kids.
7. Wars that we win.
8. Eternal salvation as out reward for Conservatism.
9. Nude photos of Rush Limbo.
10. White Presidents.

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

I've been getting quite an education, kmiller.

Are you familiar with the Uniform Commercial Code?

No. Please explain.

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

No. Please explain.

I started a whole 'nother thread about it. Check it out. You sound like you're a man of means, you'll probably want to know about this.

The idea is, that FDR confiscated all the gold during the Great Depression.

And, Hank Paulson says, we're "very close" to another depression.

So, I thought I'd check into it a little....

AND, I found something useful!

Conservatives of the old school want to conserve.

Values, environment, religion, culture.

That's what they want.

Small gov't is a way to empower this through natural selection/social darwinism.

Originally Posted by Conservationist

Conservatives of the old school want to conserve.

Values, environment, religion, culture.

That's what they want.

Small gov't is a way to empower this through natural selection/social darwinism.

As a non-white liberal populist, none of that makes any sense to me, can you explain?