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Time to put up or shut up, what is your dirt bag candidate going to do to fix the economy, if you mention that he want another stimulus package, I am going to hit you with a red!

Originally Posted by michaelr

Time to put up or shut up, what is your dirt bag candidate going to do to fix the economy, if you mention that he want another stimulus package, I am going to hit you with a red!

Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Economy

Originally Posted by Think for myself

Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Economy

Enact a Windfall Profits Tax to Provide a $1,000 Emergency Energy Rebate to American Families:Barack Obama and Joe Biden will enact a windfall profits tax on excessive oil company profits to give American families an immediate $1,000 emergency energy rebate to help families pay rising bills. This relief would be a down payment on the Obama-Biden long-term plan to provide middle-class families with at least $1,000 per year in permanent tax relief.

Bad idea, this will keep us bankrupt.

Provide $50 billion to Jumpstart the Economy and Prevent 1 Million Americans from Losing Their Jobs: This relief would include a $25 billion State Growth Fund to prevent state and local cuts in health, education, housing, and heating assistance or counterproductive increases in property taxes, tolls or fees. The Obama-Biden relief plan will also include $25 billion in a Jobs and Growth Fund to prevent cutbacks in road and bridge maintenance and fund school re­pair - all to save more than 1 million jobs in danger of being cut.

Oh they will provide 50 billion of printed toilet paper, wow sounds I dunno, Bush like. Oh wait, the taxpayer will provide 50 billion, there is a difference.

Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families: Obama and Biden will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama and Biden will create a new "Making Work Pay" tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. The "Making Work Pay" tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.

I wonder what the cut off limits are, BTW credits are not necessarily cuts.

Fight for Fair Trade: Obama and Biden will fight for a trade policy that opens up foreign markets to support good American jobs. They will use trade agreements to spread good labor and environmental standards around the world and stand firm against agreements like the Central American Free Trade Agreement that fail to live up to those important benchmarks. Obama and Biden will also pressure the World Trade Organization to enforce trade agreements and stop countries from continuing unfair government subsidies to foreign exporters and nontariff barriers on U.S. exports.

More of the same, didn't they learn that the government should not do anything with trade?

Amend the North American Free Trade Agreement: Obama and Biden believe that NAFTA and its potential were oversold to the American people. They will work with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to fix NAFTA so that it works for American workers.

The only thing that should be done with NAFTA is abolish it all together.

End Tax Breaks for Companies that Send Jobs Overseas: Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe that companies should not get billions of dollars in tax deductions for moving their operations overseas. Obama and Biden will also fight to ensure that public contracts are awarded to companies that are committed to American workers.

That will never happen, they both get their funds from corporations, and the puppet masters will put the kibosh on this.

I could go through the entire page and pick it apart, but I will save myself some time. This is the most outlandish bullshit that I have ever read, this is also more of what we have now and a big part of the reason our economy is in the tank. Hells bells man with all the entitlements and tax cuts, we will be living in cardboard boxes before you know it.

Welp. Glad that's settled.

Originally Posted by Davocrat

Welp. Glad that's settled.

Me too, I think Think is crying somewhere.

Guess who I'm voting for.

Originally Posted by Davocrat

Guess who I'm voting for.

I dunno, Ron Paul?

Michael the Obama policy is the internal colonization of America by New York Bankers and California real estate speculators. Where else would all that tax money be spent?

Originally Posted by michaelr

Time to put up or shut up, what is your dirt bag candidate going to do to fix the economy, if you mention that he want another stimulus package, I am going to hit you with a red!

Michael, that's a good question, and, I'm formulating an answer for you.

It'll take me a minute, but, I've been considering this question ever since I saw it this morning, and, I'm tryin' to take it seriously.

Obama isn't "my" candidate, but, I seem to like him better than McCain at this point, and I can tell you probably "pretty closely" what each of their economies will look like, 'cause I've done a little research into these guys Goolsbee and Gramm, and how they think and where their thoughts derive from, so, I'm gonna try to give you a useful answer.

'Course that term "fix", we should probably agree on what that means (grin) - but, I'm just gonna assume that a "return to normal" would be the first step, normal being the previous condition where we were in debt but still floatin'.

So, from that perspective, this would be mainly a "management" issue - and that part, I can definitely address.

The part in terms of economic theory, I'll leave to the experts, 'cause I'm no expert. And, that would be "beyond" the scope of the simple(r) immediate management issue.

So, gimme a minute (or a half hour or somethin'), and I'll tell you why I prefer the way an Obama economy looks, to the way a McCain economy looks.

AND, I should state in advance, that my answer is only "short-term", in other words, its scope would only be the "immediate" problem, and I would expect that the whole equation would change in 4 years (or say, within the single term of whoever the next President is).

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

Michael, that's a good question, and, I'm formulating an answer for you.

It'll take me a minute, but, I've been considering this question ever since I saw it this morning, and, I'm tryin' to take it seriously.

Obama isn't "my" candidate, but, I seem to like him better than McCain at this point, and I can tell you probably "pretty closely" what each of their economies will look like, 'cause I've done a little research into these guys Goolsbee and Gramm, and how they think and where their thoughts derive from, so, I'm gonna try to give you a useful answer.

'Course that term "fix", we should probably agree on what that means (grin) - but, I'm just gonna assume that a "return to normal" would be the first step, normal being the previous condition where we were in debt but still floatin'.

So, from that perspective, this would be mainly a "management" issue - and that part, I can definitely address.

The part in terms of economic theory, I'll leave to the experts, 'cause I'm no expert. And, that would be "beyond" the scope of the simple(r) immediate management issue.

So, gimme a minute (or a half hour or somethin'), and I'll tell you why I prefer the way an Obama economy looks, to the way a McCain economy looks.

AND, I should state in advance, that my answer is only "short-term", in other words, its scope would only be the "immediate" problem, and I would expect that the whole equation would change in 4 years (or say, within the single term of whoever the next President is).

Well thats one hell of a prelude, I am looking forward to your analysis.