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    A Republican wins Ted Kennedy's U.S. Senate seat. The senate seat in one of the most liberal states in America. This has to be one of the most humiliating loses for a political party ever. Well I'm not sure if ever....Im under 20 years old so I am sure some other embarassing ones have happened in the past. But this has to be right up there!! The Democrats pushed too far and they gave the middle finger to the American voter. The middle finger thinking we are too stupid to think for ourselves and need them to think for us. I think with a humiliating woopin in MA, this pretty much says that America truly hates the Democrat Party. The Democrats have lost Independent voters. It all over for the Democrats. The Republicans will regain the House and they will regain the Senate in the 2010 elections. After this massive loss in MA many undecided Independents will now vote Republican. Look for Republicans to have the House the Senate and win President in 2012.



    Now would I want a Republican super majority. No way. A super majority by either party is bad for America. While I am coservative I would purposely vote for Democrat to prevent a Republican super majority. The reason I would do this is cuz both neither party should ever be able to have a unstoppable super majority. Thats not America.

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    There's something horribly depressing about a whole new generation who genuinely thinks there are two different parties. It'll take 3 more Presidents to convince them, and by then a whole new batch of 20 year olds will be voting.

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    [quote name='Dr.Knuckles' date='19 January 2010 - 07:19 PM' timestamp='1263957547' post='101833']

    There's something horribly depressing about a whole new generation who genuinely thinks there are two different parties. It'll take 3 more Presidents to convince them, and by then a whole new batch of 20 year olds will be voting.

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    Maybe your right but I hope not. We need a president that will work with all the people and for all the people.

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    [quote name='Dr.Knuckles' date='19 January 2010 - 10:19 PM' timestamp='1263957547' post='101833']

    There's something horribly depressing about a whole new generation who genuinely thinks there are two different parties. It'll take 3 more Presidents to convince them, and by then a whole new batch of 20 year olds will be voting.

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    The more you post the more I realize that as a neighbor to the US, you see our country and our process through much clearer eyes than the rest of us. We have all gotten so mucked down in the nastiness of politics and power that we have forgotten the most important part of this country ... the people. Until we start working together as people and not partisan nutjobs ... things will never change.



    Thanks for your insight. It's beneficial, to me anyway.

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    If Brown's win really signifies voter dissatisfaction with the status quo, then I suggest we really do something about it:



    Write you Senators & Reps & demand they introduce legislation to:

    1. strictly limit the number of terms any elected official can serve to two terms ( & vote against anyone who wont back this idea....& Senate seniority would no longer govern committee chairmanships......Tallest Senator wins )

    2. Outlaw "Campaign Contributions" from any source as the bribes they really are. (all election funded from general revenue)





    That would be a good start to really clean out Washington!
    He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.
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    [quote name='Gypsy' date='19 January 2010 - 07:47 PM' timestamp='1263959250' post='101850']

    The more you post the more I realize that as a neighbor to the US, you see our country and our process through much clearer eyes than the rest of us. We have all gotten so mucked down in the nastiness of politics and power that we have forgotten the most important part of this country ... the people. Until we start working together as people and not partisan nutjobs ... things will never change.



    Thanks for your insight. It's beneficial, to me anyway.

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    I second that.

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    [quote name='TheDarkKnight' date='19 January 2010 - 10:08 PM' timestamp='1263956884' post='101826']

    A Republican wins Ted Kennedy's U.S. Senate seat. The senate seat in one of the most liberal states in America. This has to be one of the most humiliating loses for a political party ever. Well I'm not sure if ever....Im under 20 years old so I am sure some other embarassing ones have happened in the past. But this has to be right up there!! The Democrats pushed too far and they gave the middle finger to the American voter. The middle finger thinking we are too stupid to think for ourselves and need them to think for us. I think with a humiliating woopin in MA, this pretty much says that America truly hates the Democrat Party. The Democrats have lost Independent voters. It all over for the Democrats. The Republicans will regain the House and they will regain the Senate in the 2010 elections. After this massive loss in MA many undecided Independents will now vote Republican. Look for Republicans to have the House the Senate and win President in 2012.



    Now would I want a Republican super majority. No way. A super majority by either party is bad for America. While I am coservative I would purposely vote for Democrat to prevent a Republican super majority. The reason I would do this is cuz both neither party should ever be able to have a unstoppable super majority. Thats not America.

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    Hows about you folks who don't live in MA stop telling the voters here what we think. I tell ya what, I won't tell you what Gotham was thinking when they vote.

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    [quote name='TheDarkKnight' date='19 January 2010 - 10:08 PM' timestamp='1263956884' post='101826']

    A Republican wins Ted Kennedy's U.S. Senate seat. The senate seat in one of the most liberal states in America. This has to be one of the most humiliating loses for a political party ever. Well I'm not sure if ever....Im under 20 years old so I am sure some other embarassing ones have happened in the past. But this has to be right up there!! The Democrats pushed too far and they gave the middle finger to the American voter. The middle finger thinking we are too stupid to think for ourselves and need them to think for us. I think with a humiliating woopin in MA, this pretty much says that America truly hates the Democrat Party. The Democrats have lost Independent voters. It all over for the Democrats. The Republicans will regain the House and they will regain the Senate in the 2010 elections. After this massive loss in MA many undecided Independents will now vote Republican. Look for Republicans to have the House the Senate and win President in 2012.



    Now would I want a Republican super majority. No way. A super majority by either party is bad for America. While I am coservative I would purposely vote for Democrat to prevent a Republican super majority. The reason I would do this is cuz both neither party should ever be able to have a unstoppable super majority. Thats not America.

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    Welcome to the forum. I think you are making assumptions about the mood of the entire country based on one election, which was lost based on the wheeling and dealing done on one bill. What people are rejecting is not the party so much as the way they operate.



    The Dems keep thinking they can govern from the center and it never seems to work.



    Yes, they need to wake their asses up, I hope this does it.



    One thing I'd like them to get through their fat heads is that their assumption that the American people are put off by the wheeling and dealing that's gone on in their lame assed attempt to get health care legislation passed because



    "people don't like to see the sausage making process that is how legislation gets done in the Senate."



    That's bullshit and everybody knows it except them.



    What's upsetting us is that they are removing the meat, adding fillers and preservatives, and forcing us to buy it at too high a cost and we are expected to eat it regardless of the fact it tastes like shit and won't stop us from being hungry because there isn't enough of it, and smiling and saying the problem is that all sausage is made this way, didn't you know? As soon as they can figure out how to produce sausage that is profitable enough to the executives and shareholders at the sausage company, they promise they'll fix it later (maybe). Just like they planned to do with bankruptcy bill, the credit card bill, the Patriot Act, the wars, Blackwater and Halliburton, Guantanamo, the economy, the TARP and Medicare Part D.



    I don't care if they sell their own souls to the devil, but when they start trying to sell mine, I want something for my fucking money that I asked for and not some lame excuses about how this was the best they could do.



    Fuck that shit.
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    [quote name='Blueneck' date='19 January 2010 - 07:55 PM' timestamp='1263959750' post='101858']

    Welcome to the forum. I think you are making assumptions about the mood of the entire country based on one election, which was lost based on the wheeling and dealing done on one bill. What people are rejecting is not the party so much as the way they operate.



    The Dems keep thinking they can govern from the center and it never seems to work.



    Yes, they need to wake their asses up, I hope this does it.



    One thing I'd like them to get through their fat heads is that their assumption that the American people are put off by the wheeling and dealing that's gone on in their lame assed attempt to get health care legislation passed because



    "people don't like to see the sausage making process that is how legislation gets done in the Senate."



    That's bullshit and everybody knows it except them.



    What's upsetting us is that they are removing the meat, adding fillers and preservatives, and forcing us to buy it at too high a cost and we are expected to eat it regardless of the fact it tastes like shit and won't stop us from being hungry because there isn't enough of it, and smiling and saying the problem is that all sausage is made this way, didn't you know? As soon as they can figure out how to produce sausage that is profitable enough to the executives and shareholders at the sausage company, they promise they'll fix it later (maybe). Just like they planned to do with bankruptcy bill, the credit card bill, the Patriot Act, the wars, Blackwater and Halliburton, Guantanamo, the economy, the TARP and Medicare Part D.



    I don't care if they sell their own souls to the devil, but when they start trying to sell mine, I want something for my fucking money that I asked for and not some lame excuses about how this was the best they could do.



    Fuck that shit.

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    You sound a little upset.

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    [quote name='Dr.Knuckles' date='19 January 2010 - 10:19 PM' timestamp='1263957547' post='101833']

    There's something horribly depressing about a whole new generation who genuinely thinks there are two different parties. It'll take 3 more Presidents to convince them, and by then a whole new batch of 20 year olds will be voting.

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    Ok..so I get it. Im just a kid who knows nothing..right. Ok lets see there is also the Green Party, the Conservative Party, the Libertarian Party the Independent Party and some others also. When I register to vote I guarentee it will not be as a Democrat or Green Party. All I know is I see the Democrat Party as a very corrupt party bought off by the unions, special interests and they are just a party full of elitists who are out of touch with America. The MA Senate race just proved that. What should scare Democrats is that I am by no means the only young person who is paying attention to politics. Oh yeah I still live and die NHL(Ice Hockey) and the NFL....but I have really gotten into politics. Beware of us...I have read the U.S. Constitution..something that was NOT taught to me in school...I chose to read it on my own and many of my friends have as well. Oh and BTW I saw Scott Browns victory speech. He will be president of the U.S. in 2012. You heard it form me first.


 
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