Thread: Biden suggests war crimes trial for Bush Admin

Originally Posted by Bourne

Really? As just one example, Bush and his team knowingly fabricated information purporting to show that Iraq had WMDs when indeed it did not.

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A left wing storey that has no credibility, if it were legitimate then congrss would have jumped on it. I distinctly remember more intelligency agencies besides our own that thought that Saddam had these weapons. Plus Saddam was acting like he had them, kicking out the inspectors before allowing them to go only specific areas and only with armed republican gaurds. This issue is a leftist hanger on as if to prove that we were wrong. 14 UN resolutions, no accurate count of how many people Saddam and his murderous boys killed. Saddam used WMD's in his war with Iran and against his own people in 91 when he put down the rebellion after the first gulf war, And in my opinion the USA should regard that with shame because we left those freedom fighters to die grizzly deaths.

Originally Posted by Tick

A left wing storey that has no credibility, if it were legitimate then congrss would have jumped on it. I distinctly remember more intelligency agencies besides our own that thought that Saddam had these weapons. Plus Saddam was acting like he had them, kicking out the inspectors before allowing them to go only specific areas and only with armed republican gaurds. This issue is a leftist hanger on as if to prove that we were wrong. 14 UN resolutions, no accurate count of how many people Saddam and his murderous boys killed. Saddam used WMD's in his war with Iran and against his own people in 91 when he put down the rebellion after the first gulf war, And in my opinion the USA should regard that with shame because we left those freedom fighters to die grizzly deaths.

What you just wrote has nothing to do with the issue in the article at all.

Biden said that the Bush administration may be tried for crimes about Guantanamo Bay. What do you have to say to the Bush administration keeping people from other countries in prisons without any trial?

Originally Posted by Davocrat

There is evidence that they didn't.

Yep. LOTS of it. Let's file the charges and see what happens.

Originally Posted by Nerv14

What you just wrote has nothing to do with the issue in the article at all.

Biden said that the Bush administration may be tried for crimes about Guantanamo Bay. What do you have to say to the Bush administration keeping people from other countries in prisons without any trial?

Sorry, that was my point. It was some convoluted story that has nothing to do with the title of the thread. The thread is about Bush and Cheney should be tried for war crimes. My position is that is ridiculous, and I stated my reasons why I thought so. It makes no differance for there reasons it is nothing more than leftist fluff, empty of substance and meaning. As for guantanamo and the prisoneers there, they should have shot them where they stood, and not wasted the money time and resources it takes to keep those murderous losers alive, Bullets are cheap, and the justice that those murderers deserve is the same. $1.50.

Originally Posted by Tick

A left wing storey that has no credibility, if it were legitimate then congrss would have jumped on it. I distinctly remember more intelligency agencies besides our own that thought that Saddam had these weapons. Plus Saddam was acting like he had them, kicking out the inspectors before allowing them to go only specific areas and only with armed republican gaurds. This issue is a leftist hanger on as if to prove that we were wrong. 14 UN resolutions, no accurate count of how many people Saddam and his murderous boys killed. Saddam used WMD's in his war with Iran and against his own people in 91 when he put down the rebellion after the first gulf war, And in my opinion the USA should regard that with shame because we left those freedom fighters to die grizzly deaths.

Calling my source leftist doesn't make it untrue.

None of which counters the overwhelming evidence that Bush, Cheney and their crew lied about WMDs, not just to the American people but to our allies.

Powell's speech, delivered on February 5, 2003, made the case for the war by presenting U.S. intelligence that purported to prove that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Wilkerson says the information in Powell's presentation initially came from a document he described as "sort of a Chinese menu" that was provided by the White House.
"(Powell) came through the door ... and he had in his hands a sheaf of papers, and he said, 'This is what I've got to present at the United Nations according to the White House, and you need to look at it,'" Wilkerson says in the program. "It was anything but an intelligence document. It was, as some people characterized it later, sort of a Chinese menu from which you could pick and choose."

CNN.com - Former aide:Â*PowellÂ*WMD speechÂ*'lowest point in my life' - Aug 19, 2005

Originally Posted by Tick

Sorry, that was my point. It was some convoluted story that has nothing to do with the title of the thread. The thread is about Bush and Cheney should be tried for war crimes. My position is that is ridiculous, and I stated my reasons why I thought so. It makes no differance for there reasons it is nothing more than leftist fluff, empty of substance and meaning. As for guantanamo and the prisoneers there, they should have shot them where they stood, and not wasted the money time and resources it takes to keep those murderous losers alive, Bullets are cheap, and the justice that those murderers deserve is the same. $1.50.

Many of the people in Gurantanamo Bay aren't enemy soldiers that could be shot on the field, but people that are just strongly suspected of terror without any real proof to prove them being guilty.

The problem is that we don't know if they are criminals or not.

Keeping prissoners without trial also breaks the Geneva convention, but who cares about the UN now a-days anyway?

Originally Posted by Bourne

Calling my source leftist doesn't make it untrue.

None of which counters the overwhelming evidence that Bush, Cheney and their crew lied about WMDs, not just to the American people but to our allies.


CNN.com - Former aide:*Powell*WMD speech*'lowest point in my life' - Aug 19, 2005

Come on bourne, it was a hit peice designed to evoke an emotional respose that would fire up the leftist viewers. And if Powell was so convinced that the intellegence was not true he should have resigned and made a big deal of it, but he gave the speech, I do not feel sorry for him, he made his bed, If he would have resigned and raised hell at the time then he would have more credibiliy on the subject, and guess what, he would have been listened to, because even I was some what suspicious of the effort, but I believed the world wide belief that Saddam had em.

Originally Posted by Nerv14

Many of the people in Gurantanamo Bay aren't enemy soldiers that could be shot on the field, but people that are just strongly suspected of terror without any real proof to prove them being guilty.

The problem is that we don't know if they are criminals or not.

Keeping prissoners without trial also breaks the Geneva convention, but who cares about the UN now a-days anyway?

Exactly. The reality here, is that Bushie sent his thugs out to snatch some of these people off the streets in sovereign countries, with no due process and no respect of ANYONE's rights.

That, is simply not the American way.

Anyone who claims that asshole Bush is a patriot, is deaf dumb and blind.

Bush the Asshole, is a PISS-POOR example of an American, and I wouldn't want to repeat that, in terms of what we show to the rest of the world.

Originally Posted by Nerv14

Many of the people in Gurantanamo Bay aren't enemy soldiers that could be shot on the field, but people that are just strongly suspected of terror without any real proof to prove them being guilty.

The problem is that we don't know if they are criminals or not.

Keeping prissoners without trial also breaks the Geneva convention, but who cares about the UN now a-days anyway?

I hear what you are saying. But I am completly unsympothetic to Muslims. They are murderers, and are adherents to a murderous religon, they are doing exactly as the Quran says.

Why do the traitors want our Vice President tried? They are poo-poo heads! Period. End of story.