Thread: About that airplane "sold" on E-Bay.

Originally Posted by boontito

Sarah Palin did in fact say "put" on Ebay.

John McCain however did "stretch the truth" if not outright lied today on the stump when he said:

"You know what I enjoyed the most? She took the luxury jet that was acquired by her predecessor and sold it on eBay -- and made a profit!" McCain declared in Wisconsin at a campaign stop on Friday. It could not be immediately determined what that profit was.

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It isn't that hard of a story to get straight.

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Boon, which of the above would you categorize McCain's statement.

There is much ado over selling the plane for less than they bought it for NEW. Well I hate to break it to everyone, but it called USED now. Just like cars that drops the price because of another big word DEPRECIATION. Find me the guy who can sell a 2006 Tundra with 60,000 miles on it for the same price as an '08 Tundra still sitting on the Dealers lot, and I'll say give me his phone number, I got some old junkers I want to sell for the same price as a new car.

Originally Posted by Latherty

Is it? Well thanks for telling us.

I think this is actually a list of Tick's paranoid delusions. Perhaps you should hand it over to your psychiatrist to help him understand what the fuck is going on in that brain of yours.

A policy that promotes homosexually as normal. What an outrage!

Tick is only here to get a rise out of the more intelligent members of PH.
It's his way of "getting back" because of his lack of common sense. (sorry Tick, not everyone is gifted).
It's humorous that he makes an ass of himself in the process.

Originally Posted by Professor Peabody

Boon, which of the above would you categorize McCain's statement.

There is much ado over selling the plane for less than they bought it for NEW. Well I hate to break it to everyone, but it called USED now. Just like cars that drops the price because of another big word DEPRECIATION. Find me the guy who can sell a 2006 Tundra with 60,000 miles on it for the same price as an '08 Tundra still sitting on the Dealers lot, and I'll say give me his phone number, I got some old junkers I want to sell for the same price as a new car.

The Democrats are pretty funny, demanding 100% accuracy from any candidate except their own.

They still defend their last president, who got in trouble for what?

Oh, that's right.

Felony perjury.

What did Palin say? "sold it on e-Bay."

It really would have helped the rythm of her speech if she'd said, "we put it up on e-Bay, but no one wanted to pay the minimum bid, so we sold it on some other venue."

Stupid Democrats are just whining because they can't find anything real wrong with Palin, and they're being forced to make mountain ranges out of molehills.

What does it matter if it sold on EBAY or sold elsewhere? She unloaded it!
I watched Campbell Brown on CNN make a hugh deal about this story (grinning fron ear to ear) I was expecting a story.....like revealing a huge lie was told. What a piece of shit CNN is. Then they went on to "Trooper Gate" expecting another hugh scandal. The trooper should of been fired! The guy who didn't fire him needed to be fired.

If McCain made additional statements that is his problem, not hers.

Originally Posted by THOR

What does it matter if it sold on EBAY or sold elsewhere? She unloaded it!
I watched Campbell Brown on CNN make a hugh deal about this story (grinning fron ear to ear) I was expecting a story.....like revealing a huge lie was told. What a piece of shit CNN is. Then they went on to "Trooper Gate" expecting another hugh scandal. The trooper should of been fired! The guy who didn't fire him needed to be fired.

Exactly! Bravo to Governor Palin for doing the right thing in both cases.

Originally Posted by Professor Peabody

Boon, which of the above would you categorize McCain's statement.

There is much ado over selling the plane for less than they bought it for NEW. Well I hate to break it to everyone, but it called USED now. Just like cars that drops the price because of another big word DEPRECIATION. Find me the guy who can sell a 2006 Tundra with 60,000 miles on it for the same price as an '08 Tundra still sitting on the Dealers lot, and I'll say give me his phone number, I got some old junkers I want to sell for the same price as a new car.

I admire John McCain, but his phrasing of it was a deliberate lie meant to mislead the people he was speaking to so that they would give more weight to Sarah Palin's action of selling the plane than they would've if he had told the truth. If it isn't that big of a deal, then why didn't he just say it was sold at a loss? It isn't a mistake to substitute the word "profit" for "loss".

I completely agree. It was the right move to sell it. I think it was a benefit to the state of Alaska to sell it. I commend her for selling it. But after that when they resort to distorting the truth to improve her image, it is a cheap political tactic that both Republicans and Democrats use. And when they do it there is nothing wrong with pointing out this character flaw, regardless of which party is doing it.

Originally Posted by johnflesh

I have a hard time believing that 50% of the nation is like this. I think its going to take a lot more information besides vitrolic hate filled rants to get me to believe this.

You must be "with the terrorists"