Thread: Don't Look Now But McCain Just Lost Election

From Heel31ok

"the fact is that McCain does represent change "


Oh please!! Go peddle that crap someplace else....It's insulting!!

Originally Posted by anonnymous

I can not believe the Gaul of the republicans to even suggest that they are the party of change. The only thing they managed to change when they had both houses was the constitution. I watched their rhetoric last night and they absolutely refused to accept blame for any of the crap they have pulled off while in control. They failed to mention their responsibility in the elimination of the middle class, hell they did not even mention the middle class, and the steady increase in government debt and decline in real wages. It was like they were never their. If I hear about his POW experience one more time I think I will puke. I am a veteran but I have never wore that supposed honor the way he has, quite frankly he should be ashamed to exploit his service to this country. It is one thing to acknowledge that one served this country in an honorable way but to exploit that service is not only dishonorable but despicable.

He offered nothing in the way of real solutions for an ever increasing economic calamity this country has ever seen. He did not offer solutions to nothing. All he offered was more of the republican line that we can be the change we need just elect us. Yea, right!

Yeah i think his military service is a little overblown. He has not done or experienced anything most of us have. I am tired of all the POW whining about be prisoners , get over it already. Yeah you did your job now shut up because we have more important things to think about besides one man's service to our Country.
Yeah all that POW rhetoric is just disgusting.

Originally Posted by Devil505

Oh please!! Go peddle that crap someplace else....It's insulting!!

yeah it is like giving ice to eskimos.

Originally Posted by Devil505

By trying to grab the mantle of being the real agent of "Change" from B. Obama in last night's speech, John McCain has fallen into the same trap that cost Hillary Clinton the Democratic nomination & will now cost McCain the actual election on 11/4.
Considering their long tenures as fixtures in Washington DC, for either H. Clinton or John McCain to try to wrestle that title (Change agent) away from Obama is not a sale that can be made. They are both rightly seen as part of the problem, not the solution!
That tactical blunder (& catastrophe for McCain) alone, is proof enough that John McCain doesn't have the judgment to be our next President.

The problem is that Hillary had less credibiliy than Obama, Because she was so shrill no one listened. Obama has less credibility than McCain because he is an empty leftist, clueless, pointless, and panders to the gullible, which sadly is a large portion of the country.

Originally Posted by Devil505

From Heel31ok

"the fact is that McCain does represent change "


Oh please!! Go peddle that crap someplace else....It's insulting!!

:hissy::hissy:That is not an incentive to stop telling the truth. what a shock you do not like McCain.

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

No blindness is thinking that the election has been determined by anything that has happened up to this point.

Bingo! OK, I wouldn't call that blindness, but I do agree that the outcome of the election will be decided by what happens over the course of the next two months. Voters who are set in their ways in terms of being on the left or right have already made up their mind, nothing either candidate is going to say from here on out is going to make them change their mind. As long as both candidates can motivate their bases to actually come out and vote, they'll be arguably even. The battle will be, as always, over the voters in the middle.

Originally Posted by boontito

Bingo! OK, I wouldn't call that blindness, but I do agree that the outcome of the election will be decided by what happens over the course of the next two months. Voters who are set in their ways in terms of being on the left or right have already made up their mind, nothing either candidate is going to say from here on out is going to make them change their mind. As long as both candidates can motivate their bases to actually come out and vote, they'll be arguably even. The battle will be, as always, over the voters in the middle.

Exactly. And the central question there, is going to be, whether McCain can convince those voters that he really IS an agent of change.

Right now, the odds are stacked HEAVILY against him. All the actual evidence, points against him. He's got his whole campaign staffed with insiders and status-quo people. His voting record shows 95% with Bush. His CLAIM to being an agent of change, needs SUPPORT. He's going to need to do SOMETHING, to demonstrate his sincerity and his bona-fides in terms of being "not Bush".

Stay tuned, folks.... opcorn:

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

Exactly. And the central question there, is going to be, whether McCain can convince those voters that he really IS an agent of change.

Right now, the odds are stacked HEAVILY against him. All the actual evidence, points against him. He's got his whole campaign staffed with insiders and status-quo people. His voting record shows 95% with Bush. His CLAIM to being an agent of change, needs SUPPORT. He's going to need to do SOMETHING, to demonstrate his sincerity and his bona-fides in terms of being "not Bush".

Stay tuned, folks.... opcorn:

I would agree with the thrust of your argument other than to point out one glaring problem:

When you say this: :"His voting record shows 95% with Bush. His CLAIM to being an agent of change, needs SUPPORT. He's going to need to do SOMETHING, to demonstrate his sincerity and his bona-fides in terms of being "not Bush". (my emphasis)

I would change that to "He's going to need to Be Something else......"

Which he isn't! He is all that you say he is, & no words or even election inspired actions at this point can change that!
(a giraffe cannot become an elephant by just wishing it was)

i think its funny that all the time the republicans kept beating the drum of "yea but what does obama mean by 'change'" and now all of sudden, THEY'RE they real agents of change. apparently it was a dumb slogan until they decided to steal it.

Originally Posted by Devil505

I would agree with the thrust of your argument other than to point out one glaring problem:

When you say this: :"His voting record shows 95% with Bush. His CLAIM to being an agent of change, needs SUPPORT. He's going to need to do SOMETHING, to demonstrate his sincerity and his bona-fides in terms of being "not Bush". (my emphasis)

I would change that to "He's going to need to Be Something else......"

Which he isn't! He is all that you say he is, & no words or even election inspired actions at this point can change that!
(a giraffe cannot become an elephant by just wishing it was)

Yeah that is what Obama would need to do.