Thread: Healthcare is not a privilege , , , it's a RIGHT.

When U selfish money grubbing bigots who call themselves republicans can talk about this fact, , , feel free to call on me.

Originally Posted by whatsyurprob

When U selfish money grubbing bigots who call themselves republicans can talk about this fact, , , feel free to call on me.

Is it a man made right or a natural right?

You hear that talking point from Ted Kennedy today?

I think someones been watching American Idol... um, I mean the
Democratic National Convention.

Wow. Well that OP really opened up conversation.

The Bill Of Rights are the first 10 amendments to the Constitution. Sorry, but there is no right to healthcare included there.

No it isn't.

Originally Posted by whatsyurprob

When U selfish money grubbing bigots who call themselves republicans can talk about this fact, , , feel free to call on me.

U. of C. shunning poor patients?

HOSPITAL DISPUTE | Obama's wife, 3 aides tied to plan to free up space

August 23, 2008

BY TIM NOVAK AND CHRIS FUSCO Staff Reporters

Sen. Barack Obama's wife and three close advisers have been involved with a program at the University of Chicago Medical Center that steers patients who don't have private insurance -- primarily poor, black people -- to other health care facilities.

Michelle Obama -- currently on unpaid leave from her $317,000-a-year job as a vice president of the prestigious hospital -- helped create the program, which aims to find neighborhood doctors for low-income people who were flooding the emergency room for basic treatment. Hospital officials say such patients hinder their ability to focus on more critically ill patients in need of specialized care, such as cancer treatment and organ transplants.

Sen. John McCain, Obama's Republican opponent, criticized the Democratic presidential hopeful Friday for having pledged on the campaign trail to expand health care for Americans at the same time his top political strategist "was running a campaign to cut coverage for the poor."

U. of C. shunning poor patients? :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Barack Obama

Her Hospital is for IMPORTANT people, the riff raff uninsured can JUST keep movin down the road.....eh?

I don't know if it is a right or if it is a privilage. What I do know is that healthcare between the 1700s and now has drastically changed. Thomas Jefferson despised medicine because it was still mediocre; cures were few and far between and instead he took a natural approach (despite trying medicines of the time anyway). At the time, very few people had degrees in the area of medicine and surgeons were outcasted. Germs, bacteria, and so forth had not been adequately researched. Social beliefs and norms were completely different at the time. In all actuality, Ben Franklin was the closest to medicine. In fact, he opened up a hospital which provided free care to the sick and mentally ill.

However, the closest theory as to why healthcare was not included in the constitution more than likely has to do with medicine being very crude for its time along with very different social beliefs about medicine (natural remedies were seen as the key to healing) and not because of wealth distribution.

Healthcare is a right and I will tell you how;

Every person has a right to survive or the right to a chance at survival. This is a human right.

If you have an illness you have a right to treat yourself for such a treatment? Yes you do. However people are commonly not inclined to remove a tumor, treat VD, or any other various form of illness you can come up with, so the labor of such a task would fall on those qualified to do so. You have a right to be dependent on someone who is qualified to help you since it in essence is your survival to do so.

But you still have to pay for it. I'm sorry, but that is the way it goes. If you don't pay for it, I do. And I can't afford to pay for your healthcare. That is your right, not mine.