Thread: Vote For McCain Or """You Will Pay For It!!!!!"""

Okay I've been writing this for quite a while. I can't write anything well unless I have at least 2 or 3 days. This post proves that obama is going to taxe the middle class very hard when he is elected. I have decided to vote for McCain after that Saddleback Forum, but this post about both canidates economic plans is also convincing. I know we have a rising debt to take care of with the war and all the socialist programs that Obama wants to enact, but the taxes we will see under Obama will be heavy enough to hurt alot of small businesses that are already struggling.

Obama plans on doubling the taxes of all those "rich" folks making $30k per year...

The following data, taken from the public record, reveals each Presidential Candidate's proposed TAX Plan, if elected. Each taxpayer should become more informed before the November-08 General Election......or be willing to pay the tariff of ignorance, once taxes are enacted.


INTERESTING DATA ON TAXES
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This is something you should be aware of so you don't get blind-sided. This is really going to catch a lot of families off guard. It should make you worry.

Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples) McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN 15% ( no change)

OBAMA 39.6%

How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 4 0% of the money earned on taxes if Obama become president. The experts predict that 'higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.


INCOME TAX

MCCAIN (no changes)

Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750


Under Obama your taxes will
more than double!
How does this affect you? No explanation
needed. This is pretty
straight forward.

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax

How does this affect you? Many families have lost businesses, farms and ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will not only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA

* New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet

* New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already)

* New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity)

* New taxes on retirement accounts and last but not least....

* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

Overall I think McCain's plan to do nothing is better than Obama's plan to tax the shit out of all of us. I think we need to take away more government programs and keep taxes the way they are. Obama plans on raising taxes, add new socialist programs such as Healthcare, Global Poverty Act, and subsidies to schools.

You can verify the above at the following web sites:

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/

McCain and Obama will both further increase our current insane level of spending into oblivion. We will pay for it either with increased direct taxes, or via inflation. Either is intolerable to me.

Vote for McBama and we'll all pay for it!

Originally Posted by Defensor

McCain and Obama will both further increase our current insane level of spending into oblivion. We will pay for it either with increased direct taxes, or via inflation. Either is intolerable to me.

Vote for McBama and we'll all pay for it!

This election is between two people and nobody is going to convince the United States of anything besides that. I find myself in a predicament. I don't particulary like McCain, but I really hate Obama. There is nobody exciting running as a third party, so I will vote for the person who promotes more of my self interests.

You should really be dissapointed in Ron Paul who could have ran in this election and garnered 5-10% of the vote. That would have sent shockwaves in the Republican Party and given him a huge voice in the party. The message would be, "Republicans vote for me or you won't win another election." Barr can't do this. Neither can Baldwin or Nader.

Originally Posted by Moderates of America

This election is between two people and nobody is going to convince the United States of anything besides that. I find myself in a predicament. I don't particulary like McCain, but I really hate Obama. There is nobody exciting running as a third party, so I will vote for the person who promotes more of my self interests.

Then "the United States" can elect whatever piece of shit they want to rape this country. I choose not to be part of it.

You should really be dissapointed in Ron Paul who could have ran in this election and garnered 5-10% of the vote. That would have sent shockwaves in the Republican Party and given him a huge voice in the party. The message would be, "Republicans vote for me or you won't win another election." Barr can't do this. Neither can Baldwin or Nader.

Paul should have run, however he rightfully recognized the fact that all the success he enjoyed as Republican candidate would have come crashing down as he would have to waste an enormous amount of resources just trying to get on the ballot in states across the country. The media blackout would have reached new heights. And he would likely have been stripped of his committee positions in Congress out of GOP revenge.

I wish I could debate these taxes with someone, particularly someone who supports Obama?

They both suck. Obama's a socialist and the only seat McCain should be sitting in is a wheelchair.

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

They both suck. Obama's a socialist and the only seat McCain should be sitting in is a wheelchair.

Care to expand on that?

my parents both voted for bush the first go round because they wanted the tax breaks. it was the biggest mistake they ever made. to this day, almost 8 years later they comment on how stupid of a decision it was.

even if what you say is true, i'd actually rather pay more taxes and at least be proud of my country and my president.

Originally Posted by nickcuse

even if what you say is true, i'd actually rather pay more taxes and at least be proud of my country and my president.

So the government stealing more money out of your wallet is a source of national pride for you?

Originally Posted by Defensor

So the government stealing more money out of your wallet is a source of national pride for you?

nope, thats not what i said.

but thanks for playing, better luck next time.