Thread: $10 Gas OK for Dems

Originally Posted by Akkaid

Yeah Stinger, try to keep up with the man's flip-flops. Yesterday he was against it, today he is for it.


Jeeze, keep up with the times why dontcha.

Right. Once you've stated your position if a better idea becomes apparent you're not permitted to change your position.

If you do change to a better position that is automatically labeled "flip-flopping" by the idiots that are afraid that you'll be elected.

Originally Posted by Akkaid

Ain't gonna argue that, I voted for Paul.

They are both crap, peanuts from the same turd.

I applaud you!

Originally Posted by mjollnir

LOL You are really snowed...just like the rest of the sheeple. Get a clue...the president, drilling...none of that has ANYTHING to do with the price of a barrel of oil. This is all speculators on Wall Street. This is market driven. Nothing the government would do will make the prices go down. The ONLY thing that will help is if the environmental whackos would allow the Oil Compnaies to build a fucking refinery or two....but let's hope that an almost extinct insect isn't displaced!

It does not matter who is in the White House, congress or the senate. They are all pieces of the same turd.

A bi-partisan commitment to start drilling along with the lifting of bans on offshore drilling would immediately affect the price of oil. What exactly do you think speculators do ? Have you ever heard of oil futures trading ? Started in the 80 's .Sounds like your the one that needs a clue.

Originally Posted by Bourne

Right. Once you've stated your position if a better idea becomes apparent you're not permitted to change your position.

If you do change to a better position that is automatically labeled "flip-flopping" by the idiots that are afraid that you'll be elected.

So says Bandwagon Bourne.

Originally Posted by Bourne

Right. Once you've stated your position if a better idea becomes apparent you're not permitted to change your position.

If you do change to a better position that is automatically labeled "flip-flopping" by the idiots that are afraid that you'll be elected.

So says Bandwagon Bourne. Obama isn't getting elected. McCain will now. You shouldn't have shot your wad so early.

Originally Posted by Ausinus

The high oil price has little to do with supply. Its the oil companies' fault - just another way they can make money and they dont care who gets injured along the way.

then why didn't they start charging the high prices earlier? why now?

Originally Posted by Bourne

Right. Once you've stated your position if a better idea becomes apparent you're not permitted to change your position.

If you do change to a better position that is automatically labeled "flip-flopping" by the idiots that are afraid that you'll be elected.

You can change it, but it is important to say you changed it and not just pass it off like you always held that position, a habit Obama seems to have.

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

You can change it, but it is important to say you changed it and not just pass it off like you always held that position, a habit Obama seems to have.

I disagree. In most instances Obama has been clear about modifying his position and the reasons for doing so.

Originally Posted by Six

A bi-partisan commitment to start drilling along with the lifting of bans on offshore drilling would immediately affect the price of oil. What exactly do you think speculators do ? Have you ever heard of oil futures trading ? Started in the 80 's .Sounds like your the one that needs a clue.

Have we gotten a guarantee from oil corps?

Have they said "give us those leases and we will cut the cost of gas by $1 a gallon"?

It is sheerly speculation and the supply of oil isn't the culprit - it is the shit ass economy that this admin has given the rest of us, the value of the dollar is in the shitter so it takes more of them to buy stuff.

And of course it is the speculators that are the problem.

The price of crude oil today is not made according to any traditional relation of supply to demand. It’s controlled by an elaborate financial market system as well as by the four major Anglo-American oil companies. As much as 60% of today’s crude oil price is pure speculation driven by large trader banks and hedge funds. It has nothing to do with the convenient myths of Peak Oil. It has to do with control of oil and its price. How?

‘Perhaps 60% of today’s oil price is pure speculation’

The oil corps have plenty of land to explore, let them explore it.

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

then why didn't they start charging the high prices earlier? why now?

Why now?

Maybe because they know that there is a really good chance that they will get those leases while GWB holds office, once he is out the new admin won't cater to them.

Maybe because it is politics as usual, make the dems who hold a small majority, look bad to try to prevent them from getting a larger majority and try to keep a dem out of the WH.

And maybe because it is all of the above plus the fortunes speculators make plus how horrible the value of our US dollar.