Thread: Is Monsanto's Corn Destroying Your Internal Organs?

Is Monsanto's Corn Destroying Your Internal Organs?



Ask the honey bees.

[quote name='Pragmatist' date='12 January 2010 - 03:14 PM' timestamp='1263338079' post='98112']

Without looking at the study you can't possibly know what you are talking about. You fail to realize that nearly everything on the market is toxic. The question is at what concentration. I perform the analytical chemistry for acute and chronic studies with compounds such as these and it's usually to determine just what is toxic. Someone feeds or administers the compound at concentrations as high as they have to until signs of toxicity are observed. You also then have what is called a NOEC (No observed effect level). If the level or concentration where no signs of toxicity are observed happens to be 500 ppm then somewhere under that dose it is not considered toxic. I also conduct many field residue studies where compounds such as this are used in the field and the crops, groundwater and soils are analyzed to see what kind of concentration is there when harvested. If it's for human consumption that level usually needs to be at or below around 5-10 ppb or it won't be able to be registered for use or considered safe.



Now, seeing as the "no observed effect level" is 500 ppm or 500,000 ppb, how toxic would you consider an ear of corn is that has 10 ppb in it. That's not only beneath the concentration considered toxic, it's 50,000 times less than what is considered toxic. Anotherwords, you would need to eat about 2 bushels of corn a day for 50 years before you consumed enough to see any signs of toxicity. Actually, the compound probably degrades or is passed long before it could ever become toxic.



Your links don't talk about any of that because if they did you would laugh at them. Because something is determined to be toxic when you eat handfuls of it everyday does does not mean that if you eat a speck the size of a grain of sand half dozen times a year that it will be.



Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of deadly toxins out there in products at concentrations high enough for you to be worried about. That pack of cigarettes in front of you is one fine example. Start any threads about the evils of smoking lately?

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You have this extreme need to defend Monsanto, hell you laughed at me when I told you about terminator seeds, and the fact that these plants grow pesticides. Both were correct BTW and I never got recognition for that. Now you want to deny the article. I do not need the article. I have the ability to know that if you grow pesticides in food, it will eventually kill you, and it will kill you one hell of a lot faster than foods without it.



There is another study, it appears that weeds are becoming GM, and GM crops need more herbicides, and they ingest those poisons, and you eat that as well.

And a new study -- which had to resort to analyzing data sets produced by studies conducted by Monsanto and another biotech firm, Covance Laboratories, and submitted to European governments because researchers couldn't get seeds -- has found that Monsanto corn impairs rats' kidneys and livers. The "data strongly suggests" that after just 90 days of eating GM corn, rats experienced kidney toxicity and showed effects to their hearts, adrenal glands, spleen and blood cells. (The study was published in the International Journal of Biological Sciences.)

[quote name='Mr. Knight' date='12 January 2010 - 03:33 PM' timestamp='1263339196' post='98130']

Life will eventually kill you........so quit breathing?

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That is maybe the most stupid thing on the board all day. Why support foods that harm you and your children, it being arrogant that important to you?



Lets try this, boycott the garbage, but foods that are not GM, irradiated, non pasteurized, not prepared in some toxic slave kitchen, fast food free, and eat good whole foods.

[quote name='Pragmatist' date='12 January 2010 - 03:36 PM' timestamp='1263339404' post='98134']

I'm not defending Monsanto, I'm defending what I know is fact.





You again don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Most of the compounds are degraded or not adsorbed by the plant because if they are, and they are at the concentrations deemed unsafe, they are pulled from the market.







I know Covance well and many of the chemists who work there. I'm sure the data strongly suggest that after 90 days of eating the shit at outrageously high concentrations they found effects, that was the fucking object of the acute toxicity study in the first place you moron! Now what concentration was in the feed for 90 days and what is the concentration in the fucking corn you eat! You answer those questions and you can have an intelligent discussion. They did not post those pertinent facts because it would become obvious that the compound is not toxic at the levels found in the corn that one might eat.

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Who deems them unsafe? The FDA, well I will not trust them, hell man do so at your own peril.







And yes you do defend them, and you do so at the point of insulting me.



Revolving Doors: Monsanto and the Regulators

[quote name='Pragmatist' date='12 January 2010 - 03:44 PM' timestamp='1263339871' post='98149']

That is really ridiculous coming from a smoker.







Let's try this. Lets all bitch and worry about something that has been deemed perfectly safe to eat while at the same time stand up for your local tobacco corporation that literally kills hundreds of thousands each year with their deadly products and we know it.

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Been deemed safe by whom? Good god.



Hey you never seen me defend tobacco.