Obama ready to drop Government run Health-Care

**Six** · 16th August 2009 03:53 PM

Well a little sanity out of our most insane current administration. It appears the Public Option is going bye byw so al the SCIU'S AAND ACORN mobs were wasted on credible Americans who couldn't be fooled by Obama's health care misinformation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul

**wingrider** · 16th August 2009 04:13 PM

yeah I read this... a cooperative is probably the best way... and according to the article government cost would only be 5 or 6 billion.. sot ,ore sensible

**Formative Years** · 16th August 2009 04:30 PM

The cooperatives can negotiate for better premiums, additional coverage, etc. I would support this. The ironic thing is, a cooperative is often associated with socialist states.

**wingrider** · 16th August 2009 04:33 PM

[quote name='Formative Years' date='16 August 2009 - 03:30 PM' timestamp='1250458201' post='6130']

The cooperatives can negotiate for better premiums, additional coverage, etc. I would support this. The ironic thing is, a cooperative is often associated with socialist states.

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not really... a cooperative system has been in place here for years... farmers use it all the time

**Blueneck** · 16th August 2009 04:37 PM

[quote name='Formative Years' date='16 August 2009 - 05:30 PM' timestamp='1250458201' post='6130']

The cooperatives can negotiate for better premiums, additional coverage, etc. I would support this. The ironic thing is, a cooperative is often associated with socialist states.

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How much lower? How much more coverage? I guess no one cares at long as it's not "public".

If this is the route we go, can we take back the PHARMA deal? If we aren't doing a public option anymore I don't see where we need their support.

**Formative Years** · 16th August 2009 04:44 PM

[quote name='Blueneck' date='16 August 2009 - 05:37 PM' timestamp='1250458676' post='6136']

How much lower? How much more coverage? I guess no one cares at long as it's not "public".

If this is the route we go, can we take back the PHARMA deal? If we aren't doing a public option anymore I don't see where we need their support.

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Yes, those are the big questions. Who knows at this point. I guess it comes down to who do you trust more, the government or a cooperative. I'm leaning more toward a democratically elected cooperative, but really in a society where profit comes first, there really isn't much of a choice. The government is owned by the same people who are taking advantage of those who are complaining about their poor health insurance.

**Blueneck** · 16th August 2009 06:47 PM

[quote name='Six' date='16 August 2009 - 04:53 PM' timestamp='1250455984' post='6116']

Well a little sanity out of our most insane current administration. It appears the Public Option is going bye byw so al the SCIU'S AAND ACORN mobs were wasted on credible Americans who couldn't be fooled by Obama's health care misinformation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul

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That's it? All the hysteria over the thousands of pages and "death panels" and electronic records and the forced abortions and the kid police and all of that just goes away because there won't (supposedly) be a public option?

Interesting. You guys lied about everything just to take one thing that was optional away from others wanted it.

If this turns out to be true, you better hope we never get another Republican president. Because if we do, and even if he wins by a large margin, we have learned a lot from you all about how to kneecap him politically.

Terrorism works. Good to know.

**justoneman** · 16th August 2009 06:50 PM

Obama is the master of saying one thing and doing another. He is not finished with it. He will say he is dumping it while having it in the bill. Just like when he said there was no pork in the stimulus bill. At this point I trust him zero.

**Bluegrass** · 16th August 2009 07:07 PM

[quote name='Blueneck' date='16 August 2009 - 05:37 PM' timestamp='1250458676' post='6136']

How much lower? How much more coverage? I guess no one cares at long as it's not "public".

If this is the route we go, can we take back the PHARMA deal? If we aren't doing a public option anymore I don't see where we need their support.

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They were going to support PHRMA anyway.

I have been skeptical of this whole thing since Obama started "moving" on health care "reform".

The reform will exist only in the political theater they have created.

**Bluegrass** · 16th August 2009 07:10 PM

[quote name='Blueneck' date='16 August 2009 - 07:47 PM' timestamp='1250466428' post='6188']

That's it? All the hysteria over the thousands of pages and "death panels" and electronic records and the forced abortions and the kid police and all of that just goes away because there won't (supposedly) be a public option?[/quote]

Of course. You didn't think they really believed that crap they were foaming at the mouth about, did you?