Thread: Libertarians: jetway for the human spirit or goat path to feudalism?

Originally Posted by Defensor

An individual who benefits himself economically benefits all of society.

I'll keep that in mind the next time you start whining about how much I've made off of oil futures.

How many different ways do you want to get beaten Dave? You bring up the same topic over and over and over again just so you and four other members here can rehash all of the same old logical fallacies and make each other feel good. It's really quite sad.

Originally Posted by Bourne

I'll keep that in mind the next time you start whining about how much I've made off of oil futures.

Random comment? When have I ever whined about you making money on oil futures?

Originally Posted by Bourne

I'll keep that in mind the next time you start whining about how much I've made off of oil futures.

Sure you have pal. You told everyone how much you made off oil futures after they already had their major run, you know, ex post facto. Sound familiar Bandwagon?

How about this thread title:

Liberals: Fucking Idiots or Idiot Fucks?

Don't worry Davo, we will all be banned soon enough and you can go back to your circle jerking ignorant bliss.

Let's see, how many people are trying to float from Florida to Cuba vs the other way around?

Originally Posted by Defensor

Most people are dumb, yes. There are absolutes: a right way and a wrong way.

Since we are talking about libertarians, comments like this is what annoys me the most. I seriously think that libertarian ideas, and some of its people, see issues too much in black and white. In that if we privatize everything, then everything will be the best that it can be, no exceptions.

I can't imagine how the world's issues can be so easily solved by just privatizing everything.

Even though some mainstream conservatives (but nots neons) support most privatization, they realize that not every issue can be solved that way.

Originally Posted by Ronin Tetsuro

We completely agree on this.

But I fail to see how concentrated libertarianism will help foster this in the majority of the population.

What's "concentrated libertarianism"?

Libertarianism is the condition where the socialist wannabes who care about the poor can prove just how much they really care, and where the people who don't care are free to not care.

I keep hearing blather about how the socialists are the majority in this country, so the poor shouldn't have anything to worry about, right?

What are libertarians asking for? Nothing except the freedom to say "no" to thieves.

Originally Posted by Think for myself

Libertarians are the Commies today.

They rabidly fail to admit any fault in their system and insist that theories that have never been tested would be succesful. Thye are nothing more than the epitome of those that McCarthy warned us against, nothing more than anti Americans.

Saying "no" to getting robbed is not a flaw.

It's a virtue.

Something wrong with you yourself volunteering to use your own money, and only your money, to achieve your goals and leaving other people alone to live their own lives without your coercion?

Originally Posted by Libre

Let's see, how many people are trying to float from Florida to Cuba vs the other way around?

Maybe its the attraction of affordable, high quality public education. But--BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION--the US isn't really "libertarian." So they're not coming for the laissez faire a la mode that you promise.


BTW: Cuban Americans' attitudes shift - Los Angeles Times

Originally Posted by Defensor

An individual who benefits himself economically benefits all of society.

Yeah, after I figured this out, I got bored because I knew Roarke was going to blow up his own building and get the girl, so I skimmed the rest of the book.

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

You obviously don't understand the concept of feudalism if you equate it with libertarianism.

Based on Ponzi's ideal of "libertarian," i.e., no public property, no taxation, no government services, what is the difference between libertarianism and feudalism, if you please?

On the other hand, I understand that not everyone sees libertarianism as an absolute option and correctly understands it as a PRINCIPLE that works sometimes, rather than a form of government.