Thread: National Values

Originally Posted by Think for myself

Sorry, where is Hispanic and that and why were those not included in your original calculations?

As I stated clearly in my post (and you ignored), HISPANIC IS NOT A RACE.

Originally Posted by paddys4anarchy

This wouldn't be the case if you were willing to trade in your beloved economic liberalism. Marx was right, the economic is the deciding and overriding factor, and through it classes develop. Ethnicity, gender and the rest are just subgenres, trade in your economic right to oppress others and all the rest falls into place.

EDIT: I say "you" assuming you're American, just checked your location and it doesn't specify, so ... you get me.

Hmmm...can't name a single people the US is oppressing right now, outside of white males inside it's own borders.

Originally Posted by paddys4anarchy

You've taken pride in your country's activities, when have I taken pride in mine? Oh yes sorry, I forgot that a small event justifies a massive one, air strikes alone on Afghanistan killing more than 11 times the proportion of the Afghani civilian population as USA lost in 9/11.

So? When a bee stings me, I take out the entire hive. You trying to tell us that Afghanis are worth more than bees?

Originally Posted by paddys4anarchy

Pearl Harbour killed less than 2,500, most of whom were soldiers, so in turn USA kills 100,000 civilians. You're right, it was humanitarian of you to save so many Japanese lives.

The US killed a hell of lot more than 100,000 civillians in the course of the Japanese war. What's you're point, that the Japs were stupid to attack us?

Originally Posted by paddys4anarchy

You don't deal in making sense much do you? FFA brought it up as an off-topic insult, if you think I shouldn't be allowed to comment on USA then feel free to report me to the mods, this should be a laugh.

You are free to comment all you like. I just don't want your shitty healthcare system.

Originally Posted by Think for myself

Not really.

What you unsurprisingly failed to note was Hispanic and Asian ethnicities were not included in the census until 1980. In 1960 they were put in the same catagory as white.

Then again, Spanish is a caucasian nation.

God knows what a "hispanic" is, it sounds like a man that's been freaked out by tarantulas in his sheets, but is it spanish, or native american, or what? Who knows?

Puerto Ricans are descended almost entirely from the Spanish settlers who occupied the island after the indian aborigines were killed off. Are they as "hispanic" as the Indian/Spanish half-breeds making up most of the Mexican population, or less?

Originally Posted by Defensor

As I stated clearly in my post (and you ignored), HISPANIC IS NOT A RACE.

Why is it in the current census then?

Originally Posted by Freedom for All

Hmmm...can't name a single people the US is oppressing right now, outside of white males inside it's own borders.

I'm the one needing glasses? No one's poor now are they?

Originally Posted by Freedom for All

So? When a bee stings me, I take out the entire hive. You trying to tell us that Afghanis are worth more than bees?

Funnily enough, yes. You trying to tell me they're not?

Originally Posted by Freedom for All

The US killed a hell of lot more than 100,000 civillians in the course of the Japanese war. What's you're point, that the Japs were stupid to attack us?

You're not even trying to argue rationally, you just believe in American supremacy and that anyone challenging that is an idiot. Will be interesting to see how you react when you're Japan to China, the new USA, in a decade or two.

Originally Posted by Freedom for All

You still need glasses. I guess we'll have to wait for the full six months before you start seeing what's posted in front of you?

You're just cracking me up, we have an insurance-based medical system too y'know, and it works a lot better than yours. Why don't you do something truly inspiring and compare like for like - paying health services in our two countries, and then the plight of those who can't afford to pay.

Originally Posted by uncommonman

You are free to comment all you like. I just don't want your shitty healthcare system.

I was told this was none of my business. I was responding to that.

Originally Posted by paddys4anarchy

I'm the one needing glasses? No one's poor now are they?

I'm not stupid enough to equate poverty with oppression.

Originally Posted by paddys4anarchy

Funnily enough, yes. You trying to tell me they're not?

Not to me.

I'm the only one that counts.

Originally Posted by paddys4anarchy

You're not even trying to argue rationally, you just believe in American supremacy and that anyone challenging that is an idiot. Will be interesting to see how you react when you're Japan to China, the new USA, in a decade or two.

You're not even trying to read rationally. When you can figure out what I'm saying you'll learn a lot more.

Originally Posted by paddys4anarchy

You're just cracking me up, we have an insurance-based medical system too y'know, and it works a lot better than yours. Why don't you do something truly inspiring and compare like for like - paying health services in our two countries, and then the plight of those who can't afford to pay.

Mine works fine.

If they can't afford to pay, they should get better jobs. They're not my problem. If you care so much, you can send your own money over here to help them. They're not my problem.

Originally Posted by paddys4anarchy

I was told this was none of my business. I was responding to that.

As the citizen of a whiny state that begs for our help whenever they get their asses in a jam, you lack stature because your nation lacks stature.

Can't help you there. Not my problem.

Originally Posted by Think for myself

Why is it in the current census then?

Are refrigerators a race? They were in the last census, too.

Originally Posted by Defensor

Your point?

Catholics and Protestants do worship the same God, at least in theory. :whistling:

Tell that to the wave of freakish outrage that rippled though the country when it was realized that Kennedy was a Roman Catholic and headed for the White House.