Thread: the MENACE of "social conservatism"

So, traditional thought is, there's these "branches" of the Republican Party - you hve the fiscal conservatives, and, you have the social conservatives.

My thesis is: "social conservative" is an oxymoron. What we're really talking about here, is a bunch of whining moralists!!!

These "cosial conservative" types, seem to think that their moral opinions are more important than the constraints in the Constitutional contract.

So, these are the clownsw who are still standing up for the confessed WAR CRIMINAL who occupies the ihighes office in our land.

I suggest, people, that these "social conservatives" are a MENACE to the American People. Look at what's going on here - people like George W Bush, are bringing TORTURE to the table, and they're trying to convince us that it's somehow "necessary" to violate BASIC HUMAN RIGHST for the national security of the United States.

Hmmm..... well, I SUBMIT to you people, that if that's the case, then we are doing something very wrong.

Consider: what is the job of the President of hte United States? There is ONE, and ONLY one, reason I pay that clown, and that's to PROTECT MY RIGHTS. That is IN THE CONTRACT - that's the man's JOB!!!! All hid "duties", spring from thet ONE job requirement!!!! There is NO other reason I'm paying that guy. He's not supposed to be "clever" with my money - he's just supposed to DO HIS JOB, exactly as it's defined in the contract.

So, if the Prez is going to abrogate my Rights in favor of some ARBIRARY model of "morality" (no matter WHAT that model may be, whether it's "right" or "wrong", or whether it's just "his" or whether it just so happens that millions of pople agree with him) - then, the man is VIOLATING HIS OATH OF OFFICE!!!!

Am I right on this one, people? Of course I am! That idiot President of ours, his JOB, is NOT to "promote social causes". His JOB, is to PROTECT MY RIGHTS, and that is the ONLY thing I'm payin' him for!!!!

Make sense?

Morality is not something new in America. It was the basis of our Constitution by the founding Fathers.

The real menace is the breakdown of our society by the denegration of morality.

The breakdown of the family, teenage pregnancy and drug dependency gang involvment are all forms of decay that have not been good for our society.

The problem doesn't lie only with Bush. The majority of those in Washington could care less about the Constitution, or our rights.

Originally Posted by justoneman

The real menace is the breakdown of our society by the denegration of morality.

The breakdown of the family, teenage pregnancy and drug dependency gang involvment are all forms of decay that have not been good for our society.

That's right. The public orgies and Christian eating lions are right around the corner. :therethere:

LOL!

The OP has is wrong. There are two branches to the modern Republic Party:

Fundamentalist Christian American Taliban

and

Greedy A-holes that die a little inside everytime they think that some of their money may help society or others in it.

Of course there are always the cross-over hypocrites that talk about Christian morality while throwing the poor and the "sinners" under their power-hungry bus.

Of course it goes without saying that all of the above are proven war mongers.

Not sure where you fit in that mix. But. I have my suspicions.

Anyway, catch ya later. Gotta go get drunk before the orgy.

Originally Posted by Buster

That's right. The public orgies and Christian eating lions are right around the corner. :therethere:

LOL!

The OP has is wrong. There are two branches to the modern Republic Party:

Fundamentalist Christian American Taliban

and

Greedy A-holes that die a little inside everytime they think that some of their money may help society or others in it.

Of course there are always the cross-over hypocrites that talk about Christian morality while throwing the poor and the "sinners" under their power-hungry bus.

Of course it goes without saying that all of the above are proven war mongers.

Not sure where you fit in that mix. But. I have my suspicions.

Anyway, catch ya later. Gotta go get drunk before the orgy.

I am a family man who has a middle class income and believes in reducing the size of the enormous government we have created. I want to tie the hands of the lwyers run amuck. I would like to do something to secure our borders by dealing with the (illegal) immigration issue.

Social conservatives are guided by the Bible, which promotes quite socialistic values. When I learned that Jesus was a socialist and that I had been indoctrinated by the Catholic Church for much of my life, I lost my faith. I am proud to be a Republican, but I hate the Bible freaks and religious nuts destroying our party.

The sad part is that there are probably not enough libertarian Republicans to help the Republican party win elections. The truth is that we need these religious idiots to win elections.




"Greedy A-holes that die a little inside everytime they think that some of their money may help society or others in it."

thats me and I'm proud of it!!!!!

Originally Posted by Tide

Social conservatives are guided by the Bible, which promotes quite socialistic values. When I learned that Jesus was a socialist and that I had been indoctrinated by the Catholic Church for much of my life, I lost my faith. I am proud to be a Republican, but I hate the Bible freaks and religious nuts destroying our party. ..

social conservative is not designated by religion! Spheres of society as it relates to government have been divided in two:Society and financial. In other words you can be a social liberal. Meaning you are liberal about social issues. Sure many republicans are religious but your tying them together is wrong. I for example am not particularly religious but I am conservative socially and fiscally.

Originally Posted by justoneman

social conservative is not designated by religion! Spheres of society as it relates to government have been divided in two:Society and financial. In other words you can be a social liberal. Meaning you are liberal about social issues. Sure many republicans are religious but your tying them together is wrong. I for example am not particularly religious but I am conservative socially and fiscally.

Anyone who uses moralism to advocate the expansion of the federal government goes against my values and the supposed values of Republicans. Maybe they are not all influenced by religion, but it doesn't matter how they were influnced. What matters is what they beleive. not how they came to believe it.

Originally Posted by Tide

Anyone who uses moralism to advocate the expansion of the federal government goes against my values and the supposed values of Republicans. Maybe they are not all influenced by religion, but it doesn't matter how they were influnced. What matters is what they beleive. not how they came to believe it.

The expansion of federal government? Can you give an example of this attempted expansion by social conservatives?