Thread: the People still want the Public Option!

Here - the People want the Public Option, President Obama wants the Public Option - the only ones who don't seem to "get it", are our Congress!

As the Senate continues its debate over health care reform, the state of public opinion remains much the same as it has been: Americans support a public option, but few still believe the reforms under debate would actually help them personally.



About six in ten Americans continue to express support for the so-called "public option" –- which the Senate appears to have sidelined for now. Views on this haven’t changed recently. As was the case last month, Democrats favor it and Republicans are opposed.



VIEWS ON PUBLIC OPTION

Now 11/2009

Favor 59% 61%

Oppose 29 28



Last summer, in poll questions that did not include the phrase "public option," views were much the same, with six in ten consistently in

favor.

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_Obama_120909.pdf

Here’s something that adds a bit of perspective to the Senate’s decision to compromise by dropping the public option: The new CNN poll’s internals show that the public option is more popular than the current Senate health care compromise bill by a whopping 17 point difference.



The poll finds that only 36% favor the Senate compromise, versus 61% who oppose it.



By contrast, the poll finds that 53% favor the public option, versus 46% who oppose it.



Thirty-six percent for the Senate bill. Fifty-three percent for the public option.



It would be hard to find a clearer expression of how badly the need for a supermajority in the Senate is perverting democracy

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/re...e-health-bill/

[quote name='wingrider' date='11 December 2009 - 05:06 AM' timestamp='1260525978' post='77411']

all I can say on the public option is



be careful what you wish for



you might just get it



i think this is one of the very few areas we disagree on



I think the feds should stay out of the healthcare business



look at the disasster that medicare and medicaid is



classic example of gov run enterprises

[/quote]



Well, Medicare and Medicaid are "entitlements". The Public Option, is not an "entitlement", it's a CHOICE.



The whole idea of the Public Option, is to increase the size of the risk pool so the insurance companies won't be able to scam the people anymore!



And in that regard, it's a very good thing. You don't have to have the government administer it, it could be done by a spinoff corporation, something along the lines of the Resolution Trust Corporation.



Our Congressmen aren't thinking about that though, are they? :eyebrow:

[quote name='wingrider' date='11 December 2009 - 05:06 AM' timestamp='1260525978' post='77411']

all I can say on the public option is



be careful what you wish for



you might just get it



i think this is one of the very few areas we disagree on



I think the feds should stay out of the healthcare business



look at the disasster that medicare and medicaid is



classic example of gov run enterprises

[/quote]





Let's not even mention Iraq / Afghanistan.

[quote name='wingrider' date='11 December 2009 - 05:06 AM' timestamp='1260525978' post='77411']

all I can say on the public option is



be careful what you wish for



you might just get it



i think this is one of the very few areas we disagree on



I think the feds should stay out of the healthcare business



look at the disasster that medicare and medicaid is



classic example of gov run enterprises

[/quote]



Or the Community Reinvestment Act.

[quote name='wingrider' date='11 December 2009 - 05:06 AM' timestamp='1260525978' post='77411']

all I can say on the public option is



be careful what you wish for



you might just get it



i think this is one of the very few areas we disagree on



I think the feds should stay out of the healthcare business



look at the disasster that medicare and medicaid is



classic example of gov run enterprises

[/quote]





Or deregulating derivatives and mortgage swaps.

[quote name='wingrider' date='11 December 2009 - 05:23 AM' timestamp='1260527021' post='77418']

i believe we should not even be over there



the whole damn thing is nothing but natiion building and a drain on our economy...



the Iraq war was simply JR finishing daddys war and afghanistan broke russia



and there isn't a damn thing there we need or want

[/quote]



I agree, but we are, and will be for many, many years. The systemic mismanagement of these campaigns is indicative of what lays in store for health care reform... Epic fraud, epic expense, epic confusion, waste and failure that will be forever propped up with taxpayer money.