Thread: Ronald Reagan and Ron Paul: A Comparison

Originally Posted by michaelr

He would limit lobbyist to the best of his abilities, you have to remember that the lobby industry has never been this large. Nothing he can do or would do about PAC groups, but if there are agencies within the government that are not allowed by the Constitution he can choose to shut them down. Now I am not saying every agencies would be shut down, nor do they need be. Get rid of the US Department of education, the war on drugs, close overseas bases, and you just saved the economy. Further more get out of NAFTA, GATA, WHO, IMO, and a few other country busting agreements, then you bring prosperity.

I think that the government needs to create a law that you cannot take incentives from lobbyists. I have no problem with them existing to pitch their platform, but, the straight out bribery has got to go. It worked in pharma.

Originally Posted by freckles

You can't just fire everyone. Could you imagine the level of unemployment we would have? There are over 14.5 million federal employees alone. And they will all get unemployment checks if that happened too.

But, on the positive side, it would cause a major housing crash in the DC area and I could probably get a really cheap condo out of it.

Not everybody that is laid off or fired gets unemployment. Say a federal employee had enough time in to draw a pension, they would not be eligble to get unemployment, & there are millions that could retire. For instance, a friend of ours retired from the USAF with a monthly retirement check of just over $1,200 a month (E-7, several years ago) since he was unemployed but still planning on working he decided to file for unemployment. He was turned down, the reason, "you make too much money". Maybe that's changed now though.

Originally Posted by freckles

I think that the government needs to create a law that you cannot take incentives from lobbyists. I have no problem with them existing to pitch their platform, but, the straight out bribery has got to go. It worked in pharma.

You get a green from me.

Originally Posted by freckles

I think that the government needs to create a law that you cannot take incentives from lobbyists. I have no problem with them existing to pitch their platform, but, the straight out bribery has got to go. It worked in pharma.

It's actually amazing that they have not. Absolutely criminal in fact.

Originally Posted by Migi e!

Not everybody that is laid off or fired gets unemployment. Say a federal employee had enough time in to draw a pension, they would not be eligble to get unemployment, & there are millions that could retire. For instance, a friend of ours retired from the USAF with a monthly retirement check of just over $1,200 a month (E-7, several years ago) since he was unemployed but still planning on working he decided to file for unemployment. He was turned down, the reason, "you make too much money". Maybe that's changed now though.

The millions of 23-35 years who just purchased condos and will be forced to foreclose on them in DC will have a little problem. Why don't we just go ahead and make this whole area like Anacostia? It would be a lot less painful.

Originally Posted by Defensor

The term limits legislation wasn't passed. Dr. Paul giving up his seat would not deal with the underlying issue he discussed at all.

I see. He advocates something, and his principles are so incredibly high that he doesn't do what he advocates because the bill has not been signed.

Originally Posted by Think for myself

I see. He advocates something, and his principles are so incredibly high that he doesn't do what he advocates because the bill has not been signed.

Dr. Paul returns part of his own budget every year just to stick to his principles. Name one other congressman who does that. :whistling:

Originally Posted by Defensor

Dr. Paul returns part of his own budget every year just to stick to his principles. Name one other congressman who does that. :whistling:

Wow, that changes everything. Wait, no it doesn't.

Originally Posted by Defensor

Dr. Paul returns part of his own budget every year just to stick to his principles. Name one other congressman who does that. :whistling:

That's admirable. But does that make him a more ambitious, effective and successful legislator. No.

Originally Posted by Think for myself

Wow, that changes everything. Wait, no it doesn't.

It is not as difficult as it would seem to close down agencies, I wish it were harder to expand what you have or create new agencies.