Thread: Huckabee and the repubs

All right - talk. Does Mitt take his ball and go home, now? Does the low repub turnout mean a low election turnout? Will Thompson bow out and throw his support to MCain if McCain takes NH? Are the repubs going to split like they did in '64 between Goldwater and Rockefeller - this time between the economic conservative (McCain) and the religious populist (Huckabee). Is that why the conservative pundits were foaming at the mouth over the guy - Limbaugh, etc?

McCain is probably going to win, and like before, it will probably mean nothing. I still think Romney is going to take it and as much as I can't stand the skuz, he probably is the best bet to have it anyway.

1 low rep turnout idt will matter.

Originally Posted by freckles

McCain is probably going to win, and like before, it will probably mean nothing. I still think Romney is going to take it and as much as I can't stand the skuz, he probably is the best bet to have it anyway.

I don't know - Romney campaigned his butt off in Iowa, and took a fairly solid loss. I suspect McCain will take NH, and the south will probably tend more toward Huckabee.

Mitt won't take his ball and go home.
Thompson SHOULD drop out, but who knows if he will.
Who cares about the turnout in Iowa. Iowa does not represent the US.
It doesn't matter if there is a split, as long as the top loser of the primary does not run in a 3rd party.

My money is currently on Huckabee and Obama. I figure the US will see the largest protest vote for 3rd parties in the history of the republic, it could exceed 30% of votes cast. The top three of both major parties are surprising in that they are among the most unattractive/high negative candidates ever fielded.

Originally Posted by Rottweiler211

1 low rep turnout idt will matter.

And that means?

Originally Posted by william the wierd

My money is currently on Huckabee and Obama. I figure the US will see the largest protest vote for 3rd parties in the history of the republic, it could exceed 30% of votes cast. The top three of both major parties are surprising in that they are among the most unattractive/high negative candidates ever fielded.

I think you may be right - but if it's either McCain or Huckabee, I don't think they can win. Too many evangelists loath McCain, and too many conservatives don't like Huckabees populist economics.

Originally Posted by jojo

I think you may be right - but if it's either McCain or Huckabee, I don't think they can win. Too many evangelists loath McCain, and too many conservatives don't like Huckabees populist economics.

I would agree with you. Obama may very well win in an electoral college landslide even if he wins the popular vote in the low 40s. the problems appear to be structural:
As far back as the first term of Lincoln the reps have been a wholly owned subsidiary of the military-industrial complex.
For about as far back the Dems have been a front organization for unions and the civil rights establishment has been a poor substitute for declining unionization. (that the party that established the KKK as its main outreach group became the civil rights party amuses me.)

In a post-industrial age neither party has a solid base. The foreign policy objectives of the two parties also no longer make sense.

Industrial imperialism in a post industrial age?
Globalism during a period of rising nationalism and tribalism?

Huckabee is the Rep symptom of this structural disconnect and Obama the Dem symptom.

Originally Posted by jojo

All right - talk. Does Mitt take his ball and go home, now? Does the low repub turnout mean a low election turnout? Will Thompson bow out and throw his support to MCain if McCain takes NH? Are the repubs going to split like they did in '64 between Goldwater and Rockefeller - this time between the economic conservative (McCain) and the religious populist (Huckabee). Is that why the conservative pundits were foaming at the mouth over the guy - Limbaugh, etc?

Mitt sticks around, but I believe now the ticket for the Repubs is set.

Guiliani/Huckabee

Everybody knows Huckabee cannot beat ANY of the Dems. These two teaming up will lock up the Christian right, Pro-war Right, and the Pro-war or Anti-Hillary Independ....

Paul still gets my vote. Against the ticket I named above...my vote will slide over to Barrack.