Thread: Gun Control

Originally Posted by Heel31ok

would it make you feel any better if they were pushed out a window?



if you have kids around guns then you need to teach kids how to be around a gun and what to do and what not to do.I have no real guns but my children are not allowed to point anything imagined to be a gun at someone. They have been taught that pointing a gun at a person means you are ready to kill them. You only shoot at a person to kill them.

Another great post outlining the reality of this. I have 2 sons, one who isn't even able to comprehend what a gun is and another who isn't even allowed to have toy guns (mother's instructions and I won't defy my woman hehehe). I have many guns that have been handed down through the generations and one I bought myself and all of them are under lock and key in such a safe place that my eldest son hasn't even seen them, let alone has a chance in hell at touching one... or worse, playing with one.

I took the responsibility that comes with gun ownership and having kids long before I had a single child. And when my son is old enough to understand what a gun is capable of, he will then get the lesson on how to respect the object that is a gun and understand the levity of what they can do.

As for the not pointing toy guns at people, this is a course of parenting I had when I grew up all the while being surrounded by guns..(I do live in Texas where guns come with houses, lol) .. and I never once played with a gun because I understood exactly what they could do. Not afraid, UNDERSTOOD.

to clarify my point, and respond to what some have said, i don't mean to lump all gun people together. but IMO the people that are the most vocal about pro-gun laws, tend to be the "i'm a tough guy and if you want my gun come try and take it from me" crowd. some guy who lives on a ranch and shoots deer to eat is not out lobbying for less gun control. mainly because even if for some reason all guns were made illegal, he knows no one would bother to take away his guns. there is definitely a group of people, a large group, who seem to think it is a blow to their manhood, or sometimes woman hood, to not be able to have as many guns as they want.

Originally Posted by nickcuse

to clarify my point, and respond to what some have said, i don't mean to lump all gun people together. but IMO the people that are the most vocal about pro-gun laws, tend to be the "i'm a tough guy and if you want my gun come try and take it from me" crowd. some guy who lives on a ranch and shoots deer to eat is not out lobbying for less gun control. mainly because even if for some reason all guns were made illegal, he knows no one would bother to take away his guns. there is definitely a group of people, a large group, who seem to think it is a blow to their manhood, or sometimes woman hood, to not be able to have as many guns as they want.

I understand you point better now and I totally understand it Nick. You are right there are a few people out there who have displayed this mentality and from your explanation, it has hurt more than helped.

That's just it JF, the fist people to jump on the gungrab bandwagon are those who are totally unfamiliar with them. It would be like a Pygmie dude seeing his first airplane, it would scare the loincloth right of of him and he would do his best to keep it as far away as possible.

If you are a pygmie and are offended....I think I am sorry.

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Originally Posted by Akkaid

If you are a pygmie and are offended....I think I am sorry.

hahaha well done.

I'm not sure, but I would guess that the gun lobby depends hugely on people like your rancher, and other rural populations that are adamant about gun ownership. Assuming that making guns illegal wouldn't result in authorities confiscating weapons is stunning to me. That's a really dangerous way to approach government.

Originally Posted by Goldwater

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That is an unmitigated disgrace.

Intentional plagiarism is despicable in its own right. That Aimee would plagiarize something so poorly written and filled with flat-out errors makes it even more ridiculous.

Originally Posted by johnflesh

I understand you point better now and I totally understand it Nick. You are right there are a few people out there who have displayed this mentality and from your explanation, it has hurt more than helped.

and believe me, i am not anti gun. i really have no problem with people wanting to own guns, especially when they are used for food hunting, or target practice. then they're like any other hobby.
its when you get people that come out after incidents like virginia tech, who start making these claims that a LACK of guns is why that tragedy happened, and i think it really scares a lot of people.
and those cases, i think, are the stong indication that these pro-gun people feel vicitimized, like they're helpless little babies, and if they had just had their big bad .45, they would have showed that crazy guy who was boss. it just breeds this horrible, "don't mess with me i'm tougher than you" mentality". and frankly, thats not the kind of society i want to live in, where everyone has to prove themselves to one another, instead of just accepting one another.

Originally Posted by johnflesh

Another great post outlining the reality of this. I have 2 sons, one who isn't even able to comprehend what a gun is and another who isn't even allowed to have toy guns (mother's instructions and I won't defy my woman hehehe). I have many guns that have been handed down through the generations and one I bought myself and all of them are under lock and key in such a safe place that my eldest son hasn't even seen them, let alone has a chance in hell at touching one... or worse, playing with one.

I took the responsibility that comes with gun ownership and having kids long before I had a single child. And when my son is old enough to understand what a gun is capable of, he will then get the lesson on how to respect the object that is a gun and understand the levity of what they can do.

As for the not pointing toy guns at people, this is a course of parenting I had when I grew up all the while being surrounded by guns..(I do live in Texas where guns come with houses, lol) .. and I never once played with a gun because I understood exactly what they could do. Not afraid, UNDERSTOOD.

right on point. the main problem is underestimating what a gun can and will do. In our house a gun is always loaded.Not really but that is the attitude we teach them to take.you always assume the most penalizing scenario.safety first. you cannot downplay a gun's potential even in a toy.
Many have questioned my "shoot to kill" stance but i say if things get to the point you need to draw a gun then it is time to kill something or somebody. This also goes back to what you described as the " levity of what they can do." A GUN IS NOT TO SCARE WITH, IT IS TO KILL WITH.
with that in mind why would parents want that available to children? Like many other things in out lives it is an adult and mature tool to be used by adults or mature people.Like a lighter or a can of bug spray or whatever. I cannot blame a gun for what it does. The more serious one takes a gun the more respect for it there will be.

This topic and others like it seem to be a portal for us to visit this posters website. I say spam control would do more good than gun control.

"Gun control is a steady hand."