Thread: Might Hillary actually loose

I turned on fox news this afternoon, and I was deeply surprised to see Obama ahead of Hillary Clinton in the polls. John Edwards and Barak Obama seem to be making a coup. I haven't been watching the news lately, so can someone tell me if this has been the trend? Everyone knows that if Hillary wins the Iowa Caucus, Hillary will be the nominee. What if someone else does?


RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Iowa Democratic Caucus

Originally Posted by Moderates of America

I turned on fox news this afternoon, and I was deeply surprised to see Obama ahead of Hillary Clinton in the polls. John Edwards and Barak Obama seem to be making a coup. I haven't been watching the news lately, so can someone tell me if this has been the trend? Everyone knows that if Hillary wins the Iowa Caucus, Hillary will be the nominee. What if someone else does?


RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Iowa Democratic Caucus

I got an email from the Obama campaign. No, not a personal email, but I signed up for updates. Here's the text of it.


Friend --
The latest Iowa poll, from the Des Moines Register, shows Barack Obama has pulled ahead of Hillary Clinton and is now leading there. We even lead among women by five points.
While that's all good news, there was even more telling news this weekend.
The poll also showed that -- by a wide margin -- Iowans have found that Senator Clinton is running the most negative campaign of any candidate.
And sure enough, less than 12 hours after the poll results were released, the Clinton campaign launched multiple frantic, baseless attacks against Barack Obama. The emerging pattern is disturbing: as Senator Clinton's poll numbers slide, the campaign of "inevitability" becomes more desperate and negative by the day.
It's exactly one month until the Iowa caucuses, and Senator Clinton has promised that this is just the beginning of her negativity. She even quipped yesterday that attacking other Democrats is "the fun part" of campaigning for the presidency.
Barack will always respond swiftly and forcefully with the truth when attacked, but we have to do more to stop this kind of politics once and for all.
These attacks take attention away from solving people's problems and exact a real cost on our political process.
We need to respond by increasing the cost of these tactics for her campaign.
If 10,000 people donate in the next 48 hours in response, it will show our opponents that when they attack Barack Obama, it literally makes our campaign stronger.
You can make them think twice about continuing these attacks. Respond now with your donation of $25:
https://donate.barackobama.com/costofnegativity
Here's a quick rundown of her campaign's attacks from yesterday alone:
- They falsely claimed that Barack Obama doesn't support universal health care, even though he's had a detailed plan for it since May that would provide affordable health insurance for every single American and do more to cut the cost of health care than any other plan in this race.
- They attacked our youth organizing efforts and tried to intimidate Iowa college students who plan to participate in the caucus (the latest Iowa poll shows Obama with a commanding lead among young people).
- They even published an article on their website attacking Barack for telling his kindergarten teacher he wanted to be president when he grew up. (I'm not kidding.)
Senator Clinton and her campaign may find it fun, but this kind of disingenuous attack politics is exactly what turns people off about our political process.
You can set the tone for the next 30 days. Will you respond to these attacks with a donation of $25 right now?
https://donate.barackobama.com/costofnegativity
While Barack continues to talk about real problems like the war in Iraq, the tens of millions of uninsured, and the need for fundamental change in Washington, Senator Clinton's personal attacks come from the same, tired textbook of establishment politics.
These attacks are borne out of cynical political calculation, plain and simple.
But if 10,000 people respond to these attacks on Barack in the next 48 hours, we can change the math for them.
Thank you,
David
David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America
P.S. -- If you're curious about why our campaign is continuing to build momentum in Iowa, check out this short film we put together for our supporters there:
https://donate.barackobama.com/iowasupportervideo

Originally Posted by Moderates of America

I turned on fox news this afternoon, and I was deeply surprised to see Obama ahead of Hillary Clinton in the polls. John Edwards and Barak Obama seem to be making a coup. I haven't been watching the news lately, so can someone tell me if this has been the trend? Everyone knows that if Hillary wins the Iowa Caucus, Hillary will be the nominee. What if someone else does?


RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Iowa Democratic Caucus

Yep. She has been slipping in Iowa for about two weeks and nationally for about a month. She has not recovered from the Philadelphia debate and her husban is not helping her. As long as he keeps bringing up the Iraq war she is going to have to dodge her vote.

Originally Posted by Bert Spivey

Yep. She has been slipping in Iowa for about two weeks and nationally for about a month. She has not recovered from the Philadelphia debate and her husban is not helping her. As long as he keeps bringing up the Iraq war she is going to have to dodge her vote.

It seemed around here, in New Jersey, that support for her was increasing and I had heard about the debate debacle on rush limbaugh but it's rush I don't take anything he says as even 40% proof

Originally Posted by Moderates of America

It seemed around here, in New Jersey, that support for her was increasing and I had heard about the debate debacle on rush limbaugh but it's rush I don't take anything he says as even 40% proof

Well he was right on this one. She took a huge hit in that debate. She was handed planted and softball questions in the next debate and that did more harm to her.

Yes she might lose, and this was the news I was sort of waiting to hear.

I have said it before and will do so again. Hillary will not be the democratic nominee.

Good articleon the issue..

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Originally Posted by Moderates of America

I turned on fox news this afternoon, and I was deeply surprised to see Obama ahead of Hillary Clinton in the polls. John Edwards and Barak Obama seem to be making a coup. I haven't been watching the news lately, so can someone tell me if this has been the trend? Everyone knows that if Hillary wins the Iowa Caucus, Hillary will be the nominee. What if someone else does?


RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Iowa Democratic Caucus

I would have bet last month that she had the nomination in her pocket and it was a formality. Now, she's looking to be slipping.

The problem, those running against her are no better or less far left wing than she is.

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

I have said it before and will do so again. Hillary will not be the democratic nominee.

Who do you think it will be? Cause really the only choices are Edwards, Clinton and Obama?