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    [quote name='nonsqtr' date='29 November 2009 - 12:50 PM' timestamp='1259517050' post='69231']

    It's too bad, that the American public thrives on sound bites.



    Sound bites, are the mind-killer.



    If you want sound bites, you don't need me - you can just tune in to the MSM, and take whatever you hear there as the gospel truth.



    I've noticed that about you, Davocrat, you don't like to do actual research. The best I've seen so far, is a quick trip to factcheck.org (and, have you ever investigate where FactCheck gets its financing from? I have... )



    There is no gospel Truth. There's no such thing. There's only degrees of confidence in the model that's in your head.



    Ha ha - have you ever surfed the ADL web site? The tactics being used there are.... "common, ordinary, all over the place". It's not very hard to see what those people are up to, and how they intend to smear those who disagree with them. They are a version of "Alinsky tactics", if you're familiar with that piece. The Republican smear machine is using those same tactics. It's all too transparent and ridiculous, if you have a brain and you know what's up.

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    You are out and out wrong about my research.



    And what I'm saying about your commentary here is that it is long winded without following a concise narrative thread and rife with semi-articulated implications and suggestions. And in general you put way too much credibility on non-reviewed (editorial or peer) Web sources.



    I actually welcome longer, well-written posts that are clear and to the point.
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    [quote name='Davocrat' date='29 November 2009 - 03:25 PM' timestamp='1259526323' post='69328']

    You are out and out wrong about my research.[/quote]



    I only know what I see here, right? As do you.



    [quote name='Davocrat' date='29 November 2009 - 03:25 PM' timestamp='1259526323' post='69328']

    And what I'm saying about your commentary here is that it is long winded without following a concise narrative thread and rife with semi-articulated implications and suggestions. And in general you put way too much credibility on non-reviewed (editorial or peer) Web sources.



    I actually welcome longer, well-written posts that are clear and to the point.

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    Well, here's what it is, Davocrat - right at the moment, I'm spending most of my time "building new models", and "in search of new models".



    That means, I have less time, to get into the details and intricacies of any particular model.



    Think of it like a library - so, the purpose of a library is so you have "information at your fingertips", right? So that when you need to know something, you just go to the index, find the book, and pull it off the shelf.



    But first, before you can do that, you have to "build the library" - you have to stock it with books on the shelf. So, you try to find books that "make sense", that are somewhat authoritative and all that - but you don't really know, until you read 'em - and you can't spend time reading 'em, if you're spending all your time buying 'em!



    So, there's kind of a "bootstrapping" process involved in all this - and I've done this a lot in my life, and I've developed a methodology for how to do it, quickly and efficiently. This internet thing is great, it's wonderful in that regard, 'cause I mean, I used to do this the old and hard way, which was to sit in the engineering library night after night after night, painstakingly copying handwritten notes from journal articles and so on -



    Now, I can survey stuff "in the blink of an eye". So, I don't claim to be an expert on any particular piece (yet), what I'm after right now, is "breadth of knowledge". I want to know what's going on, and I'm continually engaged in the process of building models and tearing them down again.



    Why am I doing this? It's because I have a high degree of confidence, that the models that are in circulation right now, on these various political equations, are inaccurate, out-dated, and "less than useful".



    So, I bounce the models off you guys specifically because I'd like to elicit your feedback and your opinions.



    ABOUT THE MODELS, though - not about my writing style!

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    [quote name='nonsqtr' date='29 November 2009 - 03:41 PM' timestamp='1259527317' post='69339']

    I only know what I see here, right? As do you.







    Well, here's what it is, Davocrat - right at the moment, I'm spending most of my time "building new models", and "in search of new models".



    That means, I have less time, to get into the details and intricacies of any particular model.



    Think of it like a library - so, the purpose of a library is so you have "information at your fingertips", right? So that when you need to know something, you just go to the index, find the book, and pull it off the shelf.



    But first, before you can do that, you have to "build the library" - you have to stock it with books on the shelf. So, you try to find books that "make sense", that are somewhat authoritative and all that - but you don't really know, until you read 'em - and you can't spend time reading 'em, if you're spending all your time buying 'em!



    So, there's kind of a "bootstrapping" process involved in all this - and I've done this a lot in my life, and I've developed a methodology for how to do it, quickly and efficiently. This internet thing is great, it's wonderful in that regard, 'cause I mean, I used to do this the old and hard way, which was to sit in the engineering library night after night after night, painstakingly copying handwritten notes from journal articles and so on -



    Now, I can survey stuff "in the blink of an eye". So, I don't claim to be an expert on any particular piece (yet), what I'm after right now, is "breadth of knowledge". I want to know what's going on, and I'm continually engaged in the process of building models and tearing them down again.



    Why am I doing this? It's because I have a high degree of confidence, that the models that are in circulation right now, on these various political equations, are inaccurate, out-dated, and "less than useful".



    So, I bounce the models off you guys specifically because I'd like to elicit your feedback and your opinions.



    ABOUT THE MODELS, though - not about my writing style!

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    eh...yeah, but you skew everything you post to support anti-government libertarianism. That's not models. It's positions.
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    [quote name='Davocrat' date='29 November 2009 - 03:46 PM' timestamp='1259527604' post='69344']

    eh...yeah, but you skew everything you post to support anti-government libertarianism. That's not models. It's positions.

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    Well, yes, true dat. I have a "personal preference", and I also have "personal boundaries" relating to my willingness to "be governed", and "how" I'm willing to be governed.



    So, the purpose of even searching for models that work, is to dovetail those things - the need for government, with the personal preferences.



    The "need for government", that's a top-down concept, so like, the most efficient governments, are dictatorships!



    But the "personal preference" bit, that's bottom-up, 'cause personally I would prefer not to be told what to do.



    So, somewhere in the middle, those two needs meet, and finding the balance, is the purpose of building the library.


 
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