Thread: Straight Talk Hillary... Just Straight

Absolutely; you could say it about Barack, Fred,
Mitt or Rudy. This is a reprint from Dick Morris
and company. Of course Dick is no Hillary fan but
there is meat here and some of the meat is
necessary for Hillary to use. Even Dick points
that out but still... to me, it brings my thoughts
to this... what will happen after whomever is elected?
There's not a poster here that can talk Social Security,
taxes, immigration or anything else with any certainty
from a standpoint of anyone you may support for
president. So... I, for one, won't be surprised by those
of you that say "yeah see what she does" or those of
you that will say "I can't wait for her to do what she
does" because it's simple... no one knows until and if
she's elected. Interested in your future? Read on:

BEHIND HILLARY'S DOUBLETALK

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Published in the New York Post on November 2, 2007.

Every time she approaches a microphone, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton labors under the necessity of fudging on her
program - offering, instead, an artificial personality and a
variety of poll-tested bromides that let her duck key issues.

The resulting circumlocutions were evident in Tuesday night's
Democratic debate. Her plans for Social Security? Clearly, she
thinks she may need to raise Social Security taxes - but she
can't say so. Instead, she repeats the poll-tested mantra of
"fiscal responsibility" and a "bipartisan commission."

By "fiscal responsibility," she means ending Treasury borrowing
from the Social Security Trust Fund, a policy already in place.
By a "bipartisan commission," she means sharing the blame for
unpopular policies with Republicans to minimize the deadly
electoral impact. But she can't explain any of that, so she just
repeats the mantra.

How about Iraq? Obviously, she doesn't plan to pull out. As she
said in a newspaper interview before the presidential race
really got under way, she recognizes that we need to keep troops
there to train and support the Iraqi army, patrol the border
with Iran and hunt al Qaeda in the provinces.

But she can't say that without getting chewed up by the
Democratic left. So she speaks about the logistical
impossibility of an immediate withdrawal and acts as if the
force she would leave to pursue these missions would be minimal
- even though she knows that Pentagon plans put the troops
needed for even these limited missions at upward of 80,000.

Health-care reform? Her program of extending insurance to
illegal immigrants and others who aren't now insured will
trigger a massive increase in the demand for medical services.
The result would be a steep price rise that would force
rationing of health care, particularly for the elderly. But she
mustn't say any of that - so she pretends that her health-care
prescription is just a band-aid to cover the nagging little
problem of 50 million uninsured and that her solution won't
bother anybody else.

Driver's licenses for illegal immigrants? Certainly, she favors
them. During her husband's administration, she helped kill
proposals to ban them. In the Senate, she voted against
prohibiting them. But she can't say so without seeming to be
soft on terror, so she temporizes, expressing sympathy - but not
support - for the plan.

A day after the other Democrats battered her over the issue in
the debate, she released a statement of "general" support for
Gov. Spitzer's goal of making illegal immigrants eligible for
driver's licenses in New York. But, once again, a la Hillary,
she sent confusing signals by stating that she hadn't studied it
and wasn't "endorsing" any plan. So she's apparently for it but
not for it. Get it?

The Alternative Minimum Tax? Bill Clinton vetoed legislation to
repeal it in 1999. She voted against repealing it in 2006. She
likely intends to limit or terminate it once she's elected, but
only in return for other massive tax hikes in its place. But,
again, she has to criticize the tax because of her need to
attract middle-class voters and speak of opposing a "trillion-
dollar" tax increase on them.

Iran? Thinking ahead to the general election, she must show
toughness on terrorism. To court Jewish voters, in particular,
she needs to stand up to Iranian nuclear ambitions. But, in the primary,
she can't be seen to be too far to the right on the issue, so she
speaks of "diplomacy" and of opposing a "rush to war." As Frederick
the Great said, "Diplomacy without military might is like music without instruments."
She knows this full well, but she can't mention the word "military" without forfeiting liberal votes in the primaries.

On issue after issue, Hillary mustn't let voters know what she
plans or what she wants to do. That's the difficulty in being
Hillary.

Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!


Funny how a guy like Dick Morris, thrown out of the Clinton White House for sucking the toes of prostitutes, says something bad about Hillary and it must be true, because with his half million odllar back taxes bill, Dick Morris certainly won't say anything he can to get a few bucks.

"Musn't let voters know...."
& that is exactly why she won't release all those documents from the archives until 2012, "she doesn't want people to know".

Originally Posted by Think for myself

Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!
Hillary is evil!


Funny how a guy like Dick Morris, thrown out of the Clinton White House for sucking the toes of prostitutes, says something bad about Hillary and it must be true, because with his half million odllar back taxes bill, Dick Morris certainly won't say anything he can to get a few bucks.

"funny how Dick Morris got thrown out of the White House" for a private sexual matter period.

Originally Posted by Migi e!

"funny how Dick Morris got thrown out of the White House" for a private sexual matter period.

That is a bit ironic.

Originally Posted by Think for myself

That is a bit ironic.

I thought you might see the irony.

I've caught all the Democrat and Republican debates and seen Hillary on quite a few programs and I can't find anything really not true in this piece. That's why I said you can't find any of the other major candidates, the candidates that stand a chance of becoming president, doing any better on the answers than Hillary.

Still... do you consider Hillary's answers complete? If not then it really makes no difference who you vote for since no one else is doing any better or worse but... she's not answering but just doing generic answers and that doesn't cut it if you really want to know. I would think if you back Hillary it's more than opposing someone else. Shouldn't it be because of what a candidate stands for?

She never answers a question. She wants it both ways, she has had a candid moment or two where she forgot where she was & blurted out something, like when she used the gender card. She's as fake as a three $$ bill.

Let me tell you something I like about me. I don't hate anyone. The only chink in that is osama and those that kill out of the blue and it's not really hate I feel there either nor is it revenge. Call it justice or just let me have it because I feel that way but... I still will.

I could vote for Hillary. I could vote for Rudy. Thompson, Romney or maybe someone else. The thing is I want to listen and when i want to listen I want to hear something that makes sense. Believe me... you say something that makes sense to me and gets my agreement and you may get my vote or me on your side of the argument.

I'm not a Democrat thank goodness. I'm not a Republican either. In my state i tried to register non-partisan and they made me an Independent and I don't like that either. I can still be counted in some manner. Don't get me wrong. I've been a registered Democrat and a registered Republican. I've been seen thinking liberal and conservative. I've even been known to make up my own mind but...

If any candidate wants my solid vote and further support then i want answers to the important questions and that goes well beyond Iraq.

"Let me tell you something I like about me"?
Hmm, I don't think I've ever read a post like that before.