Thread: ha ha - Obama to purge BushCo / Repub civil servants!

Under the new rules, made retroactive for five years, the Office of Personnel Management will examine civil service employees who got their start as political appointees in the Bush administration and terminate those employees. The order is retroactive to 2004, that moment when a number of Republican congressional staffers and others sought to embed into the second Bush administration right after the election.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/1...civil-service/



Here's the original gubmint memo:



http://www.chcoc.gov/Transmittals/Tr...smittalId=2588

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http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/1...civil-service/



Here's the original gubmint memo:



http://www.chcoc.gov/Transmittals/Tr...smittalId=2588

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One of the clients that I managed (when I had a job) said that he had been "laid off" after the transition. He was a Dr with the Federal government. He was expecting to be back to work by now. He said this was normal whenever the administration changed hands.

I'm very surprised at you for being so approving of this type of action, NS. Not only is it clearly against the law to fire civil servants because of their political affilliation, it is morally reprehensible to do so. Had Bush done this, the left would have gone off of their rocker, and rightfully so. But apparently Bush had more class than Obama has.



So much for that unprecedented era of Obama bi-partisanship, right?

[quote name='SideTraKd' date='12 November 2009 - 10:38 PM' timestamp='1258083513' post='58295']

I'm very surprised at you for being so approving of this type of action, NS. Not only is it clearly against the law to fire civil servants because of their political affilliation, it is morally reprehensible to do so. Had Bush done this, the left would have gone off of their rocker, and rightfully so. But apparently Bush had more class than Obama has.



So much for that unprecedented era of Obama bi-partisanship, right?

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Obama didn't start this procedure. This was put in place by Bush in 2004. Basically, Bush set it up for his own employees to be out of work after he left office.

[quote name='Gypsy' date='12 November 2009 - 10:40 PM' timestamp='1258083636' post='58297']

Obama didn't start this procedure. This was put in place by Bush in 2004. Basically, Bush set it up for his own employees to be out of work after he left office.

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Where did you manage to pull that out of any of this?

[quote name='SideTraKd' date='12 November 2009 - 10:38 PM' timestamp='1258083513' post='58295']

I'm very surprised at you for being so approving of this type of action, NS. Not only is it clearly against the law to fire civil servants because of their political affilliation, it is morally reprehensible to do so. Had Bush done this, the left would have gone off of their rocker, and rightfully so. But apparently Bush had more class than Obama has.



So much for that unprecedented era of Obama bi-partisanship, right?

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SideTraKd, I don't know quite how to say this.



These are BushCo people, yes?



There were no REAL conservatives in BushCo.



REAL conservatives, wouldn't have worked for that Neo-Con scum.



REAL conservatives, don't see eye-to-eye with Neo-Cons.



These people in question here, are Neo-Cons, not conservatives.



They happen to carry the Republican monicker, but that doesn't make them conservatives.



My guess is, REAL conservatives have nothing to worry about.



But I sure hope those Neo-Cons are scared to death. Serves 'em right!



You won't hear me saying anything good about Neo-Cons. Sorry man, I just don't buy into that drivel, I never did, and I never will.



I consider myself a REAL conservative, and I consider the Neo-Cons to be the greatest danger to my country since the Soviet Union and the Cold War.



Anything that squashes Neo-Cons and/or the Neo-Con ideology, is a good thing in my book.

[quote name='nonsqtr' date='12 November 2009 - 10:46 PM' timestamp='1258083993' post='58300']

Anything that squashes Neo-Cons and/or the Neo-Con ideology, is a good thing in my book.

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I'm sorry, but this is not justified. Civil servants are protected from this type of discrimination by law. The fact that you think power should be abused to punish those you disagree with politically shows a fairly dark side of you that I am sad to see.

[quote name='SideTraKd' date='12 November 2009 - 10:44 PM' timestamp='1258083842' post='58299']

Where did you manage to pull that out of any of this?

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From this "subtle" slam:



So much for that unprecedented era of Obama bi-partisanship, right?

[quote name='SideTraKd' date='12 November 2009 - 10:49 PM' timestamp='1258084194' post='58302']

I'm sorry, but this is not justified. Civil servants are protected from this type of discrimination by law. The fact that you think power should be abused to punish those you disagree with politically shows a fairly dark side of you that I am sad to see.

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SideTraKd, I understand how you feel.



But let me ask you this: if Hitler were elected (which he was, he was elected), and suddenly you saw him trying to accrete power, wouldn't you do everything you could to get him out?



I certainly would! My friend, there are times, when a menace appears, that is so dangerous, that it needs to be exposed and squashed.



And, in my opinion, Neo-Cons are such a menace. That is my considered opinion, and if you wish I'll go into the details, but it's not really necessary, is it?



Hm... here, let me quote something for you. This is something I pulled from somewhere else, from someone who's a self-professed Constitutionalist (as am I) - and neither one of us, sees any Constitutional problems with this kind of thing. This person is much better wirh words than I am, so why don't I just shut up, and here -

"The Real Problem with America"



The real problem with America is not the liberals or the conservatives. It's not corporate America, and it's definitely not public services. The problem with America today is the people of America and the laziness that they exhibit on a daily basis. We live in a country that was founded on the principle that we each have the ability to make of this life what we want to. However, everyday I have to listen to people talk about how people can't help themselves, or they need someone to do this for them or that for them. We fucking allow tv shows to tell us how to dress, or decorate our home. We let corporate news tell us how to think, and we let fucking political parties tell us how to vote. It is pathetic we are incapable of doing anything for ourselves these days. If you believe that you can't overcome an obstacle, then give up, if you think their is too much red tape for you to advance your standing in life, thank your government, but if you believe in the American ideal, and the basis for the foundation of this nation quit looking for a hand-out and change it yourself. I have lived almost my entire life below the poverty level, yet I am paying my way through college, as is my brother, as will my other brothers and sisters if they so choose, and it is not because I caught a break somewhere, or someone gave me something. It is because I decided I wanted to do it so I applied myself and did whatever was necessary to make it a reality. People today are to busy feeling sorry for themselves to see that the answer to our problems is ourselves. The only truly un-American thing a person can say is that we can't change anything, or that we can't do it ourselves. I would like everyone to reflect on a phrase from a Great American:



"Ask not what you country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." - John Fitzgerald Kennedy



And that was a liberal

IMO, it is time for a new awakening in America.



And, the Neo-Cons are the people who have done everything in their power, to stop that from happening.



Me? If push came right down to shove, I'd be the guy planting the bomb at Hitler's feet. And I've been working very, VERY hard, to ensure that we never "get there", to where you or I or any other patriotic American citizen, would ever have to do anything like that.



I'm sorry but, Neo-Cons are a menace to my country. I want them gone, and this is a step in the right direction.

[quote name='nonsqtr' date='12 November 2009 - 11:24 PM' timestamp='1258086266' post='58320']

SideTraKd, I understand how you feel.



But let me ask you this: if Hitler were elected (which he was, he was elected), and suddenly you saw him trying to accrete power, wouldn't you do everything you could to get him out?

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Okay, first of all... That big ass part in your quote box..? JFK never said that.



Second, it is very sad to see you delve into comparisons of Bush to Hitler in some sort of twisted attempt to justify political retribution against people that hold views that you don't like.



This is illegal for a reason. It's morally reprehensible, and I just can not believe that you are so happy about it.



Especially given the other day when you were discussing the things that seperate us as a nation. Did you mean any of that? Or are you becoming just like every other liberal that believes in freedom of speech and diversity... until you disagree with them?



Honestly, I'm not sure what to make of your take on this.