Thread: Universal Food, Universal Clothing, and Universal ISP

Originally Posted by justoneman

In the USA some states cannot even get enough OB docotrs (baby doctors). The malpractice litigation is so high that doctors cannot afford the malpractice insurance. It is outrageously high. John Edwards, one of the Presidential candidates is a trial lawyer. He specializes in this kind of case. If a baby is born with a deformity he sues for millions to try to suggest that the desease was somehow related to the delivery. It does not matter if this is so. Juries decide the outcome. It is based on emotion not fact. This is one of the ills of our system.

With attournies controlling the courts and many politicians being ex litigators, the chances of fixing this part of the system are rather small.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Well of course they're not on the list. You wrote the list yourself.

My list goes

Police
Courts
Military

So far, so good.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Education
Health Care

Oh, NO! You blew it! Those are services the people are perfectly able to provide for themselves. Amazingly, neither education nor healthcare are obligations of the US government under the US Constitution.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Passport and Immigration

That is, it's also covered by the Constitution, but I just overlooked it because it's a minor issue. In fact, it's part of public safety (police).

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Emergency Disaster Relief

Nope.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Food and Drug Administration

Only remotely, as part of the fraud prevention considerations of a government that is supposed to protect people from criminals. Courts/police.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Civil Rights

Courts.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Alternatives to private media (not to the exclusion of private media)

Nope. Propaganda is not a proper function of government.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Postal Service

Why? Private companies can do it fine. That was a mistake in the Constitution, one of the few, but a mistake based on the cultural biases of the time.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Social Services such as Welfare, Unemployment Insurance, Retirement Savings plans, Pensions, Childcare benifits...

Nope, not a function of government. You want a pension, go out and earn one. Want a retirement savings fund? Go out and earn money, and put it in the bank. Want children? Pay for them.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Libraries
Post Secondary Education Subsidies

Nope, not my job to provide educational services for strangers, hence it's not my government's job, either.

Libraries need to find their friend Phil A.N. Thrope, and school boys need to pay for their own education.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Victim Support Services

A charitable cause properly funded by charity. It could be aided by a tax on criminals, though.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

How much does this cost?

Too much.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Generally taxation at all levels of about 40 - 50 percent. What Americans are already paying. So if these services aren't being provided for Americans? Where the hell is that money going?

Right. Iraq

Dream on. If you haven't noticed, but we Yanks have, we weren't getting those services, but getting the high taxes, before we invaded Iraq.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

So which ones are in your constitution? And do you really think that a document allowing slavery and not letting women vote is so perfect and timeless that no updates are ever required?

The Constitution permitted slavery because it was an institution allowed under British rule at the time of the revolution and attempts to eliminate slavery under the Constitution would have ruined any effort to forge a single nation. Thus a compromise was achieved.

Women were not denied the vote by the Constitution. The Constitution left voter eligibility criteria up to the states.

Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles

Access to health care for example. When the document was made no nation on Earth provided that. Now every developed nation offers it. Things change. Adapt or suffer the consequences, ne?

When I was growing up, I didn't smoke. All my friends started playing industrial revolution and smoked like chimneys. I wasn't quite as hip as they were, any more.

Then they discovered reefer, and since I didn't smoke cigarettes I decided it didn't make any sense to smoke that crap, either. So I lost a few more "friends".

I don't hack up black tar phlegm every morning. Some of them do.

Just because the rest of the world has an addiction to socialism doesn't mean it's good for them.