Thread: A Liberal who GETS IT!

Originally Posted by Invayne

I suppose he changed his mind after he went there to see things for himself.

Do you really believe that what he was shown was an accurate representation of the way things are? If you do then you haven't seen the other tours like the one McCain got. Remember, these are the same DEM morons who bought the WMD thing without any challenge. Personally, I don't think there is a single honest assessment of anything going on over there by anyone. The press, or those of them without an agenda (try to find one of those) are "embedded" for "their own protection." Trying to get even an inkling of the truth is impossible. IMHO anyway.

Originally Posted by bpyke

Honestly, after reading that you made me rethink my stance but I still believe in a pull out. We shouldn't have invaded...therefore we shouldn't be there now. The author of the OP says that that is not a well thought out argument but it makes since. If we shouldn't have done at the start. Why should it be OK for us to stay? We have no business what so ever "liberating" another nation unless they ask us.

They didn't ask us to start it but they are asking (for now) us to stay.

I'd like to see proof of that lakeman. I've heard the opposite.

Everyone should rent "The Situation". A movie based on actual events that shows what it's like in Iraq.

Our being there is only making things worse.

Originally Posted by ViolaLee

I'd like to see proof of that lakeman. I've heard the opposite.

Everyone should rent "The Situation". A movie based on actual events that shows what it's like in Iraq.

Our being there is only making things worse.

"It [the Iraqi government] was recognized by the U.S., the United Nations, the Arab League and several other countries as being the sovereign government of Iraq (see Iraqi sovereignty for more information). [] The coalition did promise that its troops would leave if the new sovereign government requested it, but no such request was made."

Iraqi Interim Government - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Based on your response you are probably referring to the wishes of the people and not the government as I was.

So here is that data:

Asked what they would like the newly elected Iraqi government to ask the US-led forces to do, 70% of Iraqis favor setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US forces. This number divides evenly between 35% who favor a short time frame of “within six months” and 35% who favor a gradual reduction over two years. Just 29% say it should “only reduce US-led forces as the security situation improves in Iraq.”

Apparently 30% or less want an immediate departure.

This poll did have some interesting facts: While few Iraqi's want the US to leave immediately many favor attacks against the US. How can this be? It seems that the Iraqi people are afraid that the US will establish permanent bases in Iraq and think that attacks against US forces will put pressure on us to finish the job quickly and not set up such bases.

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