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    Posted on Aug 1, 2007

    By Amy Goodman

    U.S. Marine Lance Cpl. Jeffrey Lucey is not counted among the Iraq war dead. But he did die, when he came home. He committed suicide. His parents are suing the Department of Veterans Affairs and R. James Nicholson, the secretary of veterans affairs, for wrongful death, medical malpractice and other damages.

    Kevin and Joyce Lucey saw their son’s rapid descent after he returned from combat in Iraq in June 2003. Kevin said: “Hallucinations started with the visual, the audio, tactile. He would talk about hearing camel spiders in his room at night, and he actually had a flashlight under his bed, which he could use to search for the camel spiders. His whole life was falling apart.”

    Jeffrey told his family that he was ordered to execute two Iraqi prisoners of war. After he killed the two men, Jeffrey took their dog tags and wore them until Christmas Eve 2003, when he threw them at his sister, calling himself a murderer. A military investigation concluded the story is without merit, but

    Kevin Lucey says: “An agency investigating itself, I have a lot of problems with that. We fully believe our son.” Joyce Lucey added: “It really, to us, didn’t make a difference what caused Jeffrey’s PTSD [post-traumatic stress disorder]. We know that he came back different, so something happened to him over there.”

    Jeffrey got worse, secluding himself in his room, watching TV and drinking heavily. Jeffrey was reluctant to seek care, fearing the stigma that he felt accompanied mental-health treatment. Finally, on May 28, 2004, the Luceys had Jeffrey involuntarily committed. The Veterans Affairs hospital released him after three days.

    On June 5, 2004, Jeffrey had deteriorated significantly. His sisters and grandfather brought him back to the VA. Joyce said the VA “decided that he wasn’t saying what he needed to say to get involuntarily committed. Later we were to find out that they never called a psychiatrist or anybody that could have evaluated him. And they have this all on the record. It said that the grandfather was pleading for his grandson to be admitted.”

    The Luceys later learned from staff notes that Jeffrey talked about three ways to commit suicide. His father explained: “He told them that he would suffocate himself, he would overdose or he would hang himself. He also shared with the psychiatrist how he had bought a hose. And, of course, on June 5, when we tried to admit him the second time and the VA declined, Joyce and I went through the house, we took everything that he could hurt himself with, but we never thought of a hose.”

    Turned back by the Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Jeffrey spent his last two weeks alive at home. Kevin Lucey describes the night before his son killed himself: “It was about 11:30 at night, and I was exhausted, Jeff was exhausted. He asked me if he would be able to sit in my lap. And so for 45 minutes we rocked in silence, and the therapist told us after Jeff died that that was no doubt his last place of refuge, his last safe harbor that he felt that he could go to.”

    The next evening, after returning home from work, Kevin raced inside: “I went to his bedroom, and the one thing I noted was that his dog tags were laying on his bed.” He made his way to the cellar, where he found his son Jeffrey dead, a hose double-looped around his neck.

    Three years later, his parents have filed suit. They are not alone. A separate class-action suit was filed by Veterans for Common Sense and Veterans United for Truth on behalf of hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been denied medical benefits.

    Jeffrey Lucey’s suicide note begins, “Dear Mom and Dad, I cannot express my apologies in words for the pain I have caused you but I beg for your forgiveness. I want you to know that I loved you both and still do but the pain of life was too much for me to deal with.”

    Supporting the troops means taking care of them when they return home.

    Amy Goodman is the host of “Democracy Now!,” a daily international TV/radio news hour airing on 500 stations in North America.

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    How many other "Jeffrey Luceys" are there who have already committed suicide or are on the verge?

    Peace!

    MeMyselfnI


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    Vietnam Vets consider any veteran of that war who passes away, for whatever reason, a casualty, no matter where he or she died. My uncle was a Nam vet and passed away in 2003 in a VA hospital after years of PTSD trauma and other ailments (he stepped on a mine).

    His name was added to the registry of deceased Vietnam vets on an Internet site a few years after his passing. This site listed hundreds of vets who died both during the war and many, many years later and is constantly updated with names.


    The In Memory program honors those who died as a result of the Vietnam War, but whose deaths do not fit the Department of Defense criteria for inclusion upon The Wall
    Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund - 2006 <i>In Memory</i> Day Honorees

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeGW View Post
    Vietnam Vets consider any veteran of that war who passes away, for whatever reason, a casualty, no matter where he or she died. My uncle was a Nam vet and passed away in 2003 in a VA hospital after years of PTSD trauma and other ailments (he stepped on a mine).

    His name was added to the registry of deceased Vietnam vets on an Internet site a few years after his passing. This site listed hundreds of vets who died both during the war and many, many years later and is constantly updated with names.




    Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund - 2006 <i>In Memory</i> Day Honorees
    The veterans of the VW are all casualties of the American gov't & many of the American people.

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    I agree... there are too many vets from that war who decline, physically and mentally, as the years pass. Whether it be PSTD, the effects of Agent Orange (yes, they were poisoned and deceived) and so forth. My uncle suffered for years with nightmares and physical ailments. I hope he is at peace now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeGW View Post
    Vietnam Vets consider any veteran of that war who passes away, for whatever reason, a casualty, no matter where he or she died. My uncle was a Nam vet and passed away in 2003 in a VA hospital after years of PTSD trauma and other ailments (he stepped on a mine).

    His name was added to the registry of deceased Vietnam vets on an Internet site a few years after his passing. This site listed hundreds of vets who died both during the war and many, many years later and is constantly updated with names.




    Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund - 2006 <i>In Memory</i> Day Honorees
    I am truly sorry for your uncle. I have an uncle who was lost to VN, too. He's still alive, but he was lost to VN. I know you know what I mean.

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    Yes, he was lost the day he was deployed. His life was a living hell, although he was a nice guy, he was very troubled and irrevocably damaged and no amount of therapy could ever have helped any of these vets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeGW View Post
    Yes, he was lost the day he was deployed. His life was a living hell, although he was a nice guy, he was very troubled and irrevocably damaged and no amount of therapy could ever have helped any of these vets.
    we could spend days analyzing the reasons, but I definitely believe that the lack of a front line and an ill defined objective are major contributors. You?

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    They sent a bunch of kids in there, and had no intentions of getting them out of there safely. They poisoned them, physically and mentally, and turned them into shells of what they once were. I don't think our government knew what they hell they were doing when they "declared" war with Vietnam. They still have no idea why they went in there and they destroyed thousands and thousands of families.

    Can you imagine the minds that went in there? What they could have been had they never been drafted? Doctors, lawyers, politicians, teachers, fine upstanding, sane human beings.

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    Unfortunately, this is all too common here. We seem to find it easy to forget our veterans once they are no longer useful. It is shameful and sad and something that should never happen in a nation as incredible as this.

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    I never forget, it's shameful to forget them.


 
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