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    Obama:Caught Lying Again-Making Back Room Deals with Pharmaceutical Lobbyist



    This lie will cost a minimum of $80 billion dollars, and then some. He is using the same lobbyist he railed against.



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    [quote name='michaelr' date='11 August 2009 - 08:10 AM' timestamp='1250003456' post='3083']

    Obama:Caught Lying Again-Making Back Room Deals with Pharmaceutical Lobbyist



    This lie will cost a minimum of $80 billion dollars, and then some. He is using the same lobbyist he railed against.



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    All politicians lie to get elected, they all lie to stay elected, people on this site lie to win arguments, everybody lies.
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    [quote name='Goldwater' date='11 August 2009 - 09:59 AM' timestamp='1250009971' post='3125']

    All politicians lie to get elected, they all lie to stay elected, people on this site lie to win arguments, everybody lies.

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    What you stated is a control process, and it is a ticket to the bottom. If all politicians murdered to get elected then by your statement, we should elect murderers. See how that works. Actually it is an excuse given by those who care more about their vote or party then right from wrong, and not all politicians lie, and i have yet to see one lie as much as Obama and still receive support.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='11 August 2009 - 12:04 PM' timestamp='1250010263' post='3126']

    What you stated is a control process, and it is a ticket to the bottom. If all politicians murdered to get elected then by your statement, we should elect murderers. See how that works.[/quote]



    But he didn't suggest that all politicians were murderers. He said liars. And he's right, they all lie to one degree or another. All of them.
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    [quote name='Bourne' date='11 August 2009 - 10:15 AM' timestamp='1250010911' post='3129']

    But he didn't suggest that all politicians were murderers. He said liars. And he's right, they all lie to one degree or another. All of them.

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    Not all of them do lie, and if this is the best that we deserve then this country has gone to hell.



    Obama never told the citizens the truth yet, he did keep his word to his handlers. Nice guys, I think you owe us an apology.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='11 August 2009 - 12:19 PM' timestamp='1250011142' post='3131']

    Not all of them do lie, and if this is the best that we deserve then this country has gone to hell.[/quote]



    Perhaps "lie" is a bit strong but all politicians twist the truth or embellish it to one degree or another. I can't think of one who hasn't or doesn't.



    [quote name='michaelr' date='11 August 2009 - 12:19 PM' timestamp='1250011142' post='3131']Obama never told the citizens the truth yet, he did keep his word to his handlers.[/quote]



    Are you suggesting that Obama has never told the truth?



    [quote name='michaelr' date='11 August 2009 - 12:19 PM' timestamp='1250011142' post='3131'] Nice guys, I think you owe us an apology.

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    [quote name='michaelr' date='11 August 2009 - 01:19 PM' timestamp='1250011142' post='3131']

    Not all of them do lie, and if this is the best that we deserve then this country has gone to hell.



    Obama never told the citizens the truth yet, he did keep his word to his handlers. Nice guys, I think you owe us an apology.

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    name one that never lied.

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    [quote name='justonemorevoice' date='11 August 2009 - 01:45 PM' timestamp='1250016323' post='3210']

    name one that never lied.

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    Wait for it. Here it comes... He's going to say the name of the living god of libertopianism, none other than Ron Paul.
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    [quote name='michaelr' date='11 August 2009 - 10:04 AM' timestamp='1250010263' post='3126']

    What you stated is a control process, and it is a ticket to the bottom. If all politicians murdered to get elected then by your statement, we should elect murderers. See how that works. Actually it is an excuse given by those who care more about their vote or party then right from wrong, and not all politicians lie, and i have yet to see one lie as much as Obama and still receive support.

    [/quote]Lieing is different from murdering because murder is illegal. Unless you lie under oath. And you could not be more incorrect Mike...ALL politicians lie, or twist the truth with wordsmithery. For my purposes on this thread, lieing means fallacious arguments.



    I'm personally dieing to hear which politician you think has NOT lied.
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    [quote name='Bourne' date='11 August 2009 - 11:47 AM' timestamp='1250016453' post='3213']

    Wait for it. Here it comes... He's going to say the name of the living god of libertopianism, none other than Ron Paul.

    [/quote]You beat me to it.
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