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    CBO: Health care bill to cost $829 billion



    Budget experts say proposal would cover 94 percent of Americans







    WASHINGTON - Health care legislation drafted by a key Senate committee would expand coverage to 94 percent of all eligible Americans at a 10-year cost of $829 billion, congressional budget experts said Wednesday, a preliminary estimate likely to power the measure past a major hurdle within days.



    The Congressional Budget Office added that the measure would reduce federal deficits by $81 billion over a decade and probably lead to "continued reductions in federal budget deficits" in the years beyond.







    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33214558/ns/politics-health_care_reform//



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    [quote name='Gypsy' date='07 October 2009 - 05:52 PM' timestamp='1254963172' post='34156']

    CBO: Health care bill to cost $829 billion



    Budget experts say proposal would cover 94 percent of Americans







    WASHINGTON - Health care legislation drafted by a key Senate committee would expand coverage to 94 percent of all eligible Americans at a 10-year cost of $829 billion, congressional budget experts said Wednesday, a preliminary estimate likely to power the measure past a major hurdle within days.



    The Congressional Budget Office added that the measure would reduce federal deficits by $81 billion over a decade and probably lead to "continued reductions in federal budget deficits" in the years beyond.







    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33214558/ns/politics-health_care_reform//



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    So spending this amount would reduce deficits?? I am no genius, but I can spot a lie a mile away.....well unless of course the money collected in this Ponzi is not for health care at all, sorta like SS hey??!!
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    Here is a link to the actual poll. In it is a link as to how the survey was contucted. The survey is not a proper one. There is no control of who is polled. They randomly called a little over a thousand people and they did not ask them their political affiliation. Because of this the survey cannot be adjusted to make sure it is a reflective sampling of the US population politically.



    Its bogus.



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    [quote name='justoneman' date='07 October 2009 - 08:37 PM' timestamp='1254965839' post='34178']

    Here is a link to the actual poll. In it is a link as to how the survey was contucted. The survey is not a proper one. There is no control of who is polled. They randomly called a little over a thousand people and they did not ask them their political affiliation. Because of this the survey cannot be adjusted to make sure it is a reflective sampling of the US population politically.



    Its bogus.



    http://documents.nyt...rt-for-war#p=16

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    That's how all polls are conducted. lol



    Anyway, did you read the article or just click the shiny red thing?

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    What are the eligibility requirements?



    And add another 200B



    One noted that the estimate does not include the costs of proposed payment increases for doctors serving Medicare patients, roughly $200 billion through 2019.





    The legislation also would ban current insurance industry practices that deny coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions, and restrict companies' ability to charge vastly higher premiums on the basis of age, gender or other factors.



    ^I don't like that. A person of higher risk should pay a higher premium.



    Can't get to the rest of the article. The site just froze on my computer. I'll check back later.

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    [quote name='Gypsy' date='07 October 2009 - 07:52 PM' timestamp='1254963172' post='34156']

    CBO: Health care bill to cost $829 billion



    Budget experts say proposal would cover 94 percent of Americans







    WASHINGTON - Health care legislation drafted by a key Senate committee would expand coverage to 94 percent of all eligible Americans at a 10-year cost of $829 billion, congressional budget experts said Wednesday, a preliminary estimate likely to power the measure past a major hurdle within days.



    The Congressional Budget Office added that the measure would reduce federal deficits by $81 billion over a decade and probably lead to "continued reductions in federal budget deficits" in the years beyond.







    http://www.msnbc.msn...h_care_reform//



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    And, of course, there is no mention of how this bill is going to be paid for? No mention of the phantom savings from a stripped down version of Medicare. So how do they reduce the deficit by 81B while spending 829B. In my view, all I see is smoke and mirrors.

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    [quote name='nomadrider' date='07 October 2009 - 09:08 PM' timestamp='1254967732' post='34197']

    And, of course, there is no mention of how this bill is going to be paid for? No mention of the phantom savings from a stripped down version of Medicare. So how do they reduce the deficit by 81B while spending 829B. In my view, all I see is smoke and mirrors.

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    Then find out the details.

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    [quote name='Gypsy' date='07 October 2009 - 09:14 PM' timestamp='1254968095' post='34200']

    Then find out the details.

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    Hey, you asked for my opinion. I see big numbers flying around, but there are no details, it's a conceptual bill. Msnbc didn't say how it's going to be paid for. So, I ask you, how's it going to be paid for?

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    [quote name='Gypsy' date='07 October 2009 - 10:02 PM' timestamp='1254967320' post='34192']

    That's how all polls are conducted. lol

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    No it is not. To be a scientific poll it would require that they ask demographic questions of the individuals so that the research can be weighted properly.
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    [quote name='justoneman' date='07 October 2009 - 10:21 PM' timestamp='1254972085' post='34208']

    No it is not. To be a scientific poll it would require that they ask demographic questions of the individuals so that the research can be weighted properly.

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    Did it say it was a scientific poll? I don't give any poll credence after the 2004 election. Scientific, people on the street or the one's here.



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