Thread: Reap the Whirlwind of Obamacare

Did the Catholics reap what they sowed?

Ever since JFK, one of the most popular U.S. Presidents who was Catholic, large numbers of Catholics have voted Democrat. However, overtime this meant compromising the holistic nature of most religions. That being that God comes first, then family and Country. Certainly political ideology should take a back seat when it comes to a person's religious convictions. Sadly, many Catholics compartmentalized their religious belief systems when it came to their political support.

In discussions with several Catholics through out the years one topic that always comes up is abortion(That which is the result of a choice). When posed the question, "How can you remain a Catholic and vote Democrat?" The most consistent response I received was, "Well, I don't believe in abortion but I vote for them because of their other social and financial platforms." This compartmentalized approach allows them to separate their position, or at least that of the Catholic faith, on that of abortion while at the same time enabling the very act of abortion by voting Democrat of which abortion is a major pillar of their political platform.

Now, with the controversial action taken by Obama with regards to religiously run institutions having to provide funded contraception, the Catholics position is that they are being forced to accept that which goes against their religious convictions and the tenants of their Church and faith. How can their assertion of this requirement being any more contradictory to their faith than their years of support of the Democrats and their pro-abortion stance? Personally, I don't think it can be. All that is being done by Obama is a compartmentalization of providing contraception vs Catholic faith's opposition to it. The tables have been cleverly turned.

To support Democrats is indeed supporting abortion One cannot compartmentalize one's political stance anymore than they can their religious belief as when one votes Democrat, they vote for the platform and the Democrat platform includes major support for abortion. In essence, they have "cast their lot" with those who support and make possible the horrific act of abortion and they do it knowingly. Therefore, they are complicit in the act of abortion. They cannot simply wash their hands by compartmentalizing.

Let us face the facts folks. Following this edict of providing funding for contraception(directly or indirectly) will be providing abortion services.

The Catholics have IMHO, reaped what they sowed by compromising their religious belief system through the act of compartmentalization. Large numbers of Catholics voted for Obama. Many if not all Catholic Democrat politicians voted for Obamacare. We have yet to see the broader implications buried in the pre-penned progressive manifesto soon to be governmental foundation that is Obamacare.

The attack on religious freedom was aided by the Democrat support of religious voters. Let's hope that the Catholics and any other faith, consider this danger when they cast their vote this time.

Now, on a slightly different subject. Since the edict of Obama is implemented under the guise of health care another table can be turned. Many doctors and people of faith believe that faith provides for them a better mental and physical health. Indeed, doctors support the premise that a person's sound mental health and positive attitude aides them greatly in recovery. The holding of one's faith and prayer then is inextricably connected to their health.

Given this, all institutions, atheist or not, private or public must provide insurance coverage that funds religious services to employees as part of their health program. This would include having on staff paid for religious counsel, literature and other religious related practices and activities, such as prayer. This then would compartmentalize in the same fashion as Obama has the of separation of Church and State where it concerns health care.

The GOP/TP is so desperate to find an issue to attack Obama on they have dredged up the 40 year old abortion issue.
They can't use foreign policy or even the economy anymore & they're out of bullets!.

Originally Posted by natstew

Abortion is not a dead issue. It was murder 40 years ago and is murder now. Abortion was never made legal by Law of Congress. It was made legal by an activist Supreme Court.

And.............it was made an issue by Obama when he included it in his socialist healthcare act.

It's also not an issue the GOP can win back the WH with this year.
If the economy continues to improve no one will care about abortion or contraception. (very few outside the bible belt do anyway)

Originally Posted by nonsqtr

They already do that, don't they?

There's a chaplain in practically every hospital, and in most of 'em you can choose your denomination.

I think that many hospitals which appear to be solely publicly funded are in actuality also supported financially by Churches. If you go to a hospital that seems as if it is a community hospital, check the make up of the board. I think you will find that many are comprised of religious leaders. Some hospitals in fact are represented by a specific denomination.

I think if a Christian for example were to enter through the doors of an emergency entrance, a large cross should be available for viewing. Atheists would no doubt take offense to this. Funny how they are bothered so much by that which they think does not exist.

Originally Posted by Liberal Doses

I think that many hospitals which appear to be solely publicly funded are in actuality also supported financially by Churches.

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Originally Posted by Devil505

It's also not an issue the GOP can win back the WH with this year.
If the economy continues to improve no one will care about abortion or contraception.

Oh plenty of people will still care and that number is growing. I think the move by Obama regarding the contraception issue will swell the ranks of Republicans with not only Catholics, but all faiths whose tenants consider murder a sin.

Originally Posted by Devil505

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Do your own homework. Or did you not learn the meaning of homework in your indoctrination camp?