OMG! Limbaugh nails the liberal interpretation of "The Rich"

**Dutch** · 27th January 2012 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by Cicero

I am saying that Mr. Limbaugh has made a career of bashing people for having "poor values". That he now has a problem, he has decried as a moral failing in others, makes him fair game. He doesn't get a pass.

Being addicted to drugs, illegal or otherwise, is a poor value. Would you prefer he popularize drug and alcohol abuse .........like many/most of our liberal hollywood crowd? Would that be more "moral" in in your mind?

**Babba** · 27th January 2012 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Dutch

You should be paying closer attention. Pretty much only germany is and it may not continue if the rest of europe goes down the tube. After all germany is selling most of their wares to it's european neighbors. Social democracy isn't any better an economic model than communism was.

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Thank you for that link. You have helped me prove my point. Look at some of those countries with high tax rates. Sweden and Finland are doing pretty well and they have fairly high tax rates. My point is that there are countries in Europe with high tax rates that are doing pretty well. Kmiller is trying to suggest that high taxes are harmful or a negative no matter what and that if we raise taxes it won't help. That's simply not true.

**kmiller1610** · 27th January 2012 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Babba

Thank you for that link. You have helped me prove my point. Look at some of those countries with high tax rates. Sweden and Finland are doing pretty well and they have fairly high tax rates. My point is that there are countries in Europe with high tax rates that are doing pretty well. Kmiller is trying to suggest that high taxes are harmful or a negative no matter what and that if we raise taxes it won't help. That's simply not true.

Not I am not. I am for the debt commission's proposal. If you REALLY cut spending and make process changes to the budget so that we can't have the senate not pass a budget for three years, then revenue increases make sense. But if you don't make those changes, increased taxes will mean nothing but more spending. You're doing nothing but feed the beast. Try reading the whole post next time.

**Babba** · 27th January 2012 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

Not I am not. I am for the debt commission's proposal. If you REALLY cut spending and make process changes to the budget so that we can't have the senate not pass a budget for three years, then revenue increases make sense. But if you don't make those changes, increased taxes will mean nothing but more spending. You're doing nothing but feed the beast. Try reading the whole post next time.

I think you and I tend to talk past each other sometimes.

I agree that changes need to be made in our government in order for a rise in tax revenues to be helpful. But there are European countries that are doing fairly well and they have high tax rates. So high tax rates don't really tell you much about the economic health of a country. High tax are good in some instances and higher rates here could be a very good thing.

**Rasselas** · 27th January 2012 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Dutch

Being addicted to drugs, illegal or otherwise, is a poor value. Would you prefer he popularize drug and alcohol abuse .........like many/most of our liberal hollywood crowd? Would that be more "moral" in in your mind?

Yep, drug addition is all about values, and it's important not to mislead people. That why it's wrong for people with strong, admiral values--like Lindsay Lohan--to be shown drinking. That might lead people astray.

**Telecaster** · 27th January 2012 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Rasselas

The press investigate crimes that people will want to read about. Frankly, people get more worked up about the sins of famous people. I don't know that your list is accurate or exclusive, but newsworthiness is dependent on things like proximity, timeliness, and magnitude. Wealthy people are the most admired in our nation. Just being wealthy makes one the object of both admiration and jealous--that's human nature.

Again, I'm not looking at criminal acts. I'm looking at political agendas.

Well, 'society' always operates via stereotypes--that's why they are stereotypes. I really think you're suffering from selective attention. The press investigates everyone. The echo chambers of both right and left make both sides paranoid.

That is right...I am "selecting" the MSM and it's penchant to ignore the private lives of those on the left side. The press did not look into the life of Ms. Brosanek all these months since her employment came to light. Even now, no one is reporting her actual income. Joe the plumber was probed immediately.

**Red Eft** · 27th January 2012 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Dutch

Certainly not with our intrepid mainstream press on the job. This is an old study, there have been many with the same findings, but it's my favorite if only because it comes from UCLA.

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And there have been concerns raised about the veracity of this study.

**kmiller1610** · 27th January 2012 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Babba

I think you and I tend to talk past each other sometimes.

I agree that changes need to be made in our government in order for a rise in tax revenues to be helpful. But there are European countries that are doing fairly well and they have high tax rates. So high tax rates don't really tell you much about the economic health of a country. High tax are good in some instances and higher rates here could be a very good thing.

We must study Sweden then. I suspect their low Debt / GDP ration may have something to do with having no national defense. But a lot of the Scandinavians live very efficiently. I'll bet they run a tight ship.

**Babba** · 27th January 2012 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Telecaster

Again, I'm not looking at criminal acts. I'm looking at political agendas.

That is right...I am "selecting" the MSM and it's penchant to ignore the private lives of those on the left side. The press did not look into the life of Ms. Brosanek all these months since her employment came to light. Even now, no one is reporting her actual income. Joe the plumber was probed immediately.

What are you talking about? Everyone is reporting on her. The media loved all of the stories about Bill Clinton's private life and fed off of it for years and years. Look at Anthony Wiener. Look what happened to Gary Hart. Look at the speculation about Justice Elena Kagan's personal life and Hillary Clinton. It would help people on the right if they didn't behave so holier than thou and self-righteous and then turn out to be such hypocrites.

**Babba** · 27th January 2012 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by kmiller1610

We must study Sweden then. I suspect their low Debt / GDP ration may have something to do with having no national defense. But a lot of the Scandinavians live very efficiently. I'll bet they run a tight ship.

We could learn some things from them and everyone else whose economies are doing better in these conditions. I'm not saying that we can adopt their policies wholesale. But they do prove that high taxes can be compatible with a healthy economy. And yes, Scandinavians do live comparatively efficiently partly because their government applies policies that encourage just that. They do have the advantage of much lower national defense expenses and a relatively homogenous society. They do get some things right that we could learn from, though.