Thread: Question on new rule regarding accusations of racism.

Only a racist would start a thread like this!!!

Bigot!!!!

:-)

Kidding!!!!!!!

But if we Libs cannot call Righties racist crackers, how can we possibly combat being called .... SOCIALISTS???

Originally Posted by the watchman

I don't understand the new rule that was announced regarding accusations of racism. I'm very concerned with the wording "in order to be legitimate". Is it now the position of this site that, when ever an individual members thinks another users comments constitute racism, they are allowed to essentially publicly call that member out, as long as they can make a substantive argument ( complete with links, posts etc )?

Also, just to clarify, it's sometimes the case that threads, comments, etc are reported and no action is taken. If no action is taken, and the threads, comments, etc are allowed - will members be penalize for responding in kind to the comments that were allowed? In some of the cases I refer to, Moderators have been present on the thread, actively participating in and , seemingly, endorsing , encouraging, and/or ignoring the race-baiting and/or flame baiting. This of course, whether intentional or not, gives the impression that "anything goes".

Finally, what can the members here expect going forward ? I'm concerned specifically with innocent mentions of race , that may not have been posted for race-baiting, or flame-baiting purposes. As well as comments that were posted prior to the institution of this new rule. Will members be allowed to dredge up ancient comments, of which they feel might fall into the category of these new rules, for purposes of making an allegations of racism towards another user - so long as it fits into the "legitimate" allegations of racism cateogory?

This is pretty much it. You can't go around calling someone a racist jsut because you think it. If you can't show it then it's not allowed. it has to be proven. Real arguements of it. We will make the decision if the accuser made the case. there is plenty of staff with a wide range of opinions. It's not there for someone to start a thread that is dedicated to calling out a member. It has to be within the thread of it being discussed. WE don't allow anyone to start a thread calling someone out for anything(baring stuff like "Has anyone heard from so and so)

As far as aciton take, Just because a member hasn't been Thread Banned doesn't mean action hasn't been taken. We have a wide range of options from a simple PM warning to Banning. We usually take steps unless warrented otherwise. We will never tell what punishment people get unless they are kicked out of a thread(this is only to keep people from responding to people who have been booted) So never assume action hasn't been taken.

We will take each case by case. Me, the council will be joining the mods on this rule until to reach conclusions until it's fine tune.

Bottomline is race can be discussed in a mature way without calling each other racist. So if you see a racist or what you percieve as racist post, you are encouraged to report it so we can handle it.

why does accusations of racism deserve special treatment & consideration, while accusations of being a traitor, being a Communist, being a Socialist, being a Marxist, being a Fascist, being an anti-Semite...do not?

Originally Posted by the watchman

I don't understand the new rule that was announced regarding accusations of racism. I'm very concerned with the wording "in order to be legitimate". Is it now the position of this site that, when ever an individual members thinks another users comments constitute racism, they are allowed to essentially publicly call that member out, as long as they can make a substantive argument ( complete with links, posts etc )?

Also, just to clarify, it's sometimes the case that threads, comments, etc are reported and no action is taken. If no action is taken, and the threads, comments, etc are allowed - will members be penalize for responding in kind to the comments that were allowed? In some of the cases I refer to, Moderators have been present on the thread, actively participating in and , seemingly, endorsing , encouraging, and/or ignoring the race-baiting and/or flame baiting. This of course, whether intentional or not, gives the impression that "anything goes".

Finally, what can the members here expect going forward ? I'm concerned specifically with innocent mentions of race , that may not have been posted for race-baiting, or flame-baiting purposes. As well as comments that were posted prior to the institution of this new rule. Will members be allowed to dredge up ancient comments, of which they feel might fall into the category of these new rules, for purposes of making an allegations of racism towards another user - so long as it fits into the "legitimate" allegations of racism rule?

It was thrown together in a hurry.
I was making too much noise about the turds under the rug.

Originally Posted by Oscar99

why does accusations of racism deserve special treatment & consideration, while accusations of being a traitor, being a Communist, being a Socialist, being a Marxist, being a Fascist, being an anti-Semite...do not?

We may include stuff later. If/when it becomes a problem

Originally Posted by Inkslinger

It was thrown together in a hurry.
I was making too much noise about the turds under the rug.

This acutually wasn't thrown together quickly. It was being worked on for a bit.

Originally Posted by Scottie

This is pretty much it. You can't go around calling someone a racist jsut because you think it.

Psst... check out who thanked you.
I told you that you'd be hit with the whiteys!

Originally Posted by Scottie

This is pretty much it. You can't go around calling someone a racist jsut because you think it. If you can't show it then it's not allowed. it has to be proven. Real arguements of it. We will make the decision if the accuser made the case. there is plenty of staff with a wide range of opinions. It's not there for someone to start a thread that is dedicated to calling out a member. It has to be within the thread of it being discussed. WE don't allow anyone to start a thread calling someone out for anything(baring stuff like "Has anyone heard from so and so)

As far as aciton take, Just because a member hasn't been Thread Banned doesn't mean action hasn't been taken. We have a wide range of options from a simple PM warning to Banning. We usually take steps unless warrented otherwise. We will never tell what punishment people get unless they are kicked out of a thread(this is only to keep people from responding to people who have been booted) So never assume action hasn't been taken.

We will take each case by case. Me, the council will be joining the mods on this rule until to reach conclusions until it's fine tune.

Bottomline is race can be discussed in a mature way without calling each other racist. So if you see a racist or what you percieve as racist post, you are encouraged to report it so we can handle it.

Ok, got it. Thanks.