Thread: And the fall continues

Even with the strategy change, the attacks on the protesters and the right in general he continues to fall.



http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx

[quote name='nickcuse' date='27 August 2009 - 02:53 PM' timestamp='1251410037' post='12335']

what exactly is the point of these threads?

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Stinger fancies himself an agent of change. Like all GOP stooges think when they constantly barrage this web site with ordinance that typically affects the impressionable amongst us. IE anti Obama Conservatives. I didn't even view the link.

[quote name='nonsqtr' date='27 August 2009 - 03:25 PM' timestamp='1251411914' post='12352']

Yeah, well - him and 3 million other wing-nuts (the Beck crowd, y'know) - they're all sittin'

there spouting sh*t about "revolution and rebellion" between sips of beer.



I'll tell you what pal, I am DONE talking, except with you guys and a few others who seem to

have brains. I'm no longer interested in listening to their BS - I've heard it all, and nothing

ever changes. It's all about pointing fingers at the other guy, and making him look bad.



And meanwhile, the REAL problems, go IGNORED, and they just keep on getting worse and worse.



I am PISSED, Goldie, I'm very, very angry right now. I've taken just about all I can take from

these m/f'ers.



So, my input is going to be a little sparse for a while, I got a thing starting in about one

week and it's going to take a lot of time and effort, and I'll tell you what - I can rattle off

a whole LONG list of names, of people who spent their whole lives going after some modicum of

equality and justice, and never lived to see the results. I know what this is, I'm well aware

of the sacrifices that may have to be made.



But I'll say this - I'm a patriot and I love my country, and I won't ALLOW the weasels to co-opt

it in favor of horrible atrocities they want to perpetrate in MY NAME - and yours, and all the other

good people around here - RIPPING us off, MAGICALLY creating new powers for themselves, unfunded

mandates to the STates (which are BANKRUPTING my State), and on and on and on.



These federal f'in weasels need a big heads-up, and I'm not stupid enough to believe I can do

that kind of thing on my own, so I've spent a LONG time building up an infrastructure, brick

by brick. There's a network that extends across the WHOLE country right now, of people just like me -

educated, talented, well-meaning - and ANGRY! And none of this has gone on in the public domain -

we know full well and in advance that EVERY method of communication is being monitored, yadda yadda.



I mean, please don't think I'm gonna do something nutty, 'cause I'm not. I consider it vital to

retain a cool head and specifically NOT allow fringey kooks into this process. I'll use 'em when

and where I have to, though, 'cause that's what it's come down to. They're messing with the WRONG

people, Goldie - 300 million pissed off American taxpayers is WAY more than they can handle, trust

me on that - in fact, don't trust me - I'll just my left nut on it (and already have).



Did you see Michael's new avatar? That's what needs to happen now. I just went in print on a public

forum, and stated my case in GREAT detail, and if they want to roust me they know exactly where to

find me. Only thing is, if I drop the flag there's a million more just like me waiting to pick it up.



No kiddin', pal, this is what it's come down to. We need people who are willing to put their names,

their reputations, and EVERYTHING they've got on the line - INCLUDING THEIR LIVES, if need be. This

is my COUNTRY we're talking about, not some f'in board game where the spoils are a few greenbacks.



Our research to date shows that there are SEVENTY ONE Senators who've been bought off by special

interests, and no longer represent the People. That's 3/4 of the most important decision making

body in this country!!!



So, the time is now. There's a window, and if it closes, all is lost. You won't see me doing any

nutty stuff like blowing anything up, but you WILL see me use my tech skills to put stuff down on

Front Street and into the public domain. And there is NOTHING the weasels can do to stop us, except

come in with the jackbooted thugs - and if they do THAT, they know exactly what's going to happen.



Did you catch that story about the 102,000 boxcars this morning? THAT's what this is coming to.

This is some serious sh*t we're into now. And "I" am not the one who chose this path, or escalated

it, or any of that stuff - all I am is an ordinary citizen - a NOBODY in fact - just a guy with

a brain and faith and some principles. And there are ONE MILLION more like me, and the numbers

are growing every day.



You be at that tax protest, Goldwater - be there if you can. It's time to show the weasels who's

boss. We got all KINDS of resources - in industry, in banking, in government - even in the military!



That's all I'm going to say in THIS public forum. It's more than enough, I'm sure. Your country

calls - it's not "me" that's doing it - it's your COUNTRY. Just look around - you see what's going

on, I know you do - we've talked about it many times on this forum. I don't know from conspiracies,

and I don't know from wing-nut ideology - what I DO know, is that our elected traitors are making

it IMPOSSIBLE for ordinary citizens like me to conduct our lives in a reasonable manner - and once

that happens, the usefulness of our "system" as we know it, has come to an end.



Those 71 Senators - you'll hear about that, for sure. That'll be out "real soon". The rest of it,

we'll just have to see how it goes. Readiness, is key - vigilance, is key - capability, is key.

Whoever's doing this stuff to my country, is going to be in BIG trouble pretty soon. We're just

now finding out what's really going on, and it is MIND BOGGLING!!! I've been waking up every

morning, shaking my head in disgust and slapping my forehead in disbelief. But, it's real, and

it has to be addressed. And ALL of us, are going to be called upon to make a decision in this

regard, and you can postpone it if you wish, but I choose not to.

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I can feel your anger Non. Although most of my better thinking was NOT done when I was angry...I can't say that I disagree with your post in any particular way. I'm all for significant change but Americans are a bunch of entitled dandies and while they continue to hire yes people into the government things are gonna get worse and worse. I think Obama is the scapegoat for that sentiment. Just like Bush was scapegoated for the economy. Americans who borrowed money they couldn't pay back thier loans along with Wall Streeters who knowingly sold bad paper caused the economic mess. Fear and neomccarthyism is Obama's greatest nemisis and the Conservative media is cultivating a bumper crop this year.



You wait...all this anti establishment thinking and the two candidates we'll choose from in 2012 will be a connected Republican VS Obama...change will just have to wait untill Americans have the balls for sacrifice

[quote name='nickcuse' date='27 August 2009 - 04:53 PM' timestamp='1251410037' post='12335']

what exactly is the point of these threads?

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You didn't know Obama was President and trying to gain the support of the people to pass his agenda?



Why are you here then?

[quote name='Goldwater' date='27 August 2009 - 04:56 PM' timestamp='1251410215' post='12337']

Stinger fancies himself an agent of change. Like all GOP stooges think when they constantly barrage this web site with ordinance that typically affects the impressionable amongst us. IE anti Obama Conservatives. I didn't even view the link.

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And now the personal invective when you can't deal intellectually with the subject.



If you can't discuss the Presidential polls which for decades have been subject to political discourse why are you here?

[quote name='Stinger' date='27 August 2009 - 05:07 PM' timestamp='1251418021' post='12399']

And now the personal invective when you can't deal intellectually with the subject.

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The poll indicates that more Americans polled approve of the job Obama is doing than dissaprove. We get a new Stinger Poll thread for every point Obama drops. What happens when he goes below 50%? Gonna have a righty circle jerk?



[quote name='Stinger' date='27 August 2009 - 05:07 PM' timestamp='1251418021' post='12399']

If you can't discuss the Presidential polls which for decades have been subject to political discourse why are you here?

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I love your melodrama...decades and decades steeped in tradition...(rolling eyes). My first post was to render my opinion of your inscessant Obama approval poll threads. After that I was responding to Nonsqtr.

[quote name='Goldwater' date='27 August 2009 - 07:38 PM' timestamp='1251419880' post='12414']

The poll indicates that more Americans polled approve of the job Obama is doing than dissaprove. We get a new Stinger Poll thread for every point Obama drops. What happens when he goes below 50%? Gonna have a righty circle jerk?[/quote]



Half and look at the trend. You can keep your head in the sand all you want. It don't look good for Obama and the harder he tries the worse it gets.

I love your melodrama...decades and decades steeped in tradition...(rolling eyes).

I love yours trying to dismiss Presidential polling out of hand, what folly. Why do you think political parties pay so dearly for polling? Why do you think Gallop and Rasmussen, and PEW and all the other polling companies exist. Why do you think news agencies spend money paying for polling?



You guys are so hilarious trying to avoid the fact that Obama is in deep trouble and in ain't getting better.