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    Oh yeah, our private system is sooooo much better, and cheaper. I forgot again how far behind the UK in healthcare are we? Oh yeah, UK is 18th were 37th behind Colombia, Cyprus, Chile. Great system we have if you're in the 1%.

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    Stop that Henry, facts are very annoying to the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan View Post
    Ha! The Tories are in for it if they think the people will accept the privatization of healthcare. If they really want to cut costs, go the nationalized insurance route, rather than the socialized medicine route.
    Are you saying nationalized insurance would not become a burden to the tax payers/nation in numerous ways?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan View Post
    Well sure, but socialized medicine is different from nationalized insurance. With nationalized insurance, the government isn't operating the vast network of hospitals, they're just footing the bill, passing regulation to control costs.
    Ultimately, it would be no better because we the people won't like the government's insurance companies telling us what services we can't have any more than we like our private insurers limiting service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highway234 View Post
    i've got relatives in england, and believe me, the NHS is not a "free ride." but it's a helluvalot better than the horrible system we have here.
    Well, it is only natural we would think the service is better. But will your relatives think that when the nation is going broke?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryPorter View Post
    Oh yeah, our private system is sooooo much better, and cheaper. I forgot again how far behind the UK in healthcare are we? Oh yeah, UK is 18th were 37th behind Colombia, Cyprus, Chile. Great system we have if you're in the 1%.
    Our system wouldn't cause our government to be going bankrupt like in the UK. Of course, we have other entitlements to blame for that.
    Oh and our system wouldn't be causing half of small businesses to say "Hmmm. You know what, maybe I shouldn't hire anymore people". But now that we have Obamacare, and that's what they're thinking.
    Great system for the 1%? AHAHA. I'm part of the 99%. Hell I just had to go to the doctor monday. Made a phone call and I was in his office 30 minutes later. What a horrible horrible system we have. Sick people everywhere. Dying out on the streets!
    The debating level of the liberals on this forum: "fuck off, you filthy, careless piece of shit"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    Well that is natural we would think the service is better. But will your relatives think when the nation is going broke?
    you mean the way the US is going broke now? do you have any idea how many household bankruptcies in the US are due to medical expenses? You know how many in the UK?

    Here's a hint: in the US, virtually all of them. in the UK, virtually none.
    I consider myself an FDR democrat and an Eisenhower republican. In today's America that makes me a radical without a party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highway234 View Post
    i've got relatives in england, and believe me, the NHS is not a "free ride." but it's a helluvalot better than the horrible system we have here.
    They don't pay in nearly enough to cover the costs... hence why their government is broke. But you know who cares, we can just print more $$ right? SMH

    Horrible system? Bahaha
    The debating level of the liberals on this forum: "fuck off, you filthy, careless piece of shit"
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    Quote Originally Posted by highway234 View Post
    you mean the way the US is going broke now? do you have any idea how many household bankruptcies in the US are due to medical expenses? You know how many in the UK?

    Here's a hint: in the US, virtually all of them. in the UK, virtually none.
    No. Just the government.
    yeah the US is going broke. So let's add on another entitlement. That'll be great. Let's put that final nail in the coffin!
    The debating level of the liberals on this forum: "fuck off, you filthy, careless piece of shit"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roshi View Post
    They don't pay in nearly enough to cover the costs... hence why their government is broke. But you know who cares, we can just print more $$ right? SMH

    Horrible system? Bahaha
    and why is our government going broke?

    yes, our system is horrible. worse than chile's.
    I consider myself an FDR democrat and an Eisenhower republican. In today's America that makes me a radical without a party.

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