Thread: VAGINAL PENETRATION LAW BEING PASSED IN VIRGINIA- Anti-abortion "personhood" bill adv

Rachel Maddow Show

I have insurance expertise not OB/GYN so I defered to Rachel Madcow and she did rePort that the ultrasound required to make the determination necessary for determinimng the stage of fetal development the probing needed to be internal. Madcow may be a Liberal or a Progressive but she is not stupid to state something being internal when it is not.

Originally Posted by carpe diem

yeah...because an abortion is not in any way penetration...Libs are so ridiculous.

No what is rediculous is that the RW Wackso do not care that this intrusive internal probing is a requirfement and not something the women can decise on. The decision to have an abortion is voluntary. Do you RW wACKS KNOW THE DIFERENCE BETWEEN FORCED PENETRATION AS A REQUIRFEMENT VS A VOLUNTARY PROCEDURE ?

Don't bother answering you have already displayed that you don't know the diference between a personal right and a hole in the ground.

Originally Posted by carpe diem

During an abortion...do they use a speculum or do they remove the child through another means?

Ultra sounds are sound waves, the typical procedure is done with the reading device only on the surface of the mothers abdomen. No penetration required.

Another lib fabrication...more fear mongering tactics. Why is it the only time a lib ever embraces choice is if that choice is to kill an unborn child?

The point is that an abortion is a voluntary procedure undergone by a woman but this way requiures the the internal probe and that is not voluntary.

Originally Posted by Stefan Bandera

The point is that an abortion is a voluntary procedure undergone by a woman but this way requiures the the internal probe and that is not voluntary.

By agreeing to have an abortion, a woman is agreeing to vaginal penetration. She can elect not to have an abortion and no perpetration is necessary (beside the penetration that got her preggo in the first place).

Originally Posted by Mordent

By agreeing to have an abortion, a woman is agreeing to vaginal penetration. She can elect not to have an abortion and no perpetration is necessary (beside the penetration that got her preggo in the first place).

The key word is " agreeing ". .. If you or I agree o do somethink that is our decision. If someone imposes a procedure on you or I that is not SIZE=5][/SIZE] " agreeing ".

Originally Posted by carpe diem

During an abortion...do they use a speculum or do they remove the child through another means?

Ultra sounds are sound waves, the typical procedure is done with the reading device only on the surface of the mothers abdomen. No penetration required.

Another lib fabrication...more fear mongering tactics. Why is it the only time a lib ever embraces choice is if that choice is to kill an unborn child?

For once, I agree with you. I've seen my own children, measured and their conception date calculated, all on the screen, and all from the abdomen.

Originally Posted by Mordent

By agreeing to have an abortion, a woman is agreeing to vaginal penetration. She can elect not to have an abortion and no perpetration is necessary (beside the penetration that got her preggo in the first place).

If you want a cancerous skin tomor removed and yoou agree to that it requuires surgery to remove a part of your body. If the government tells you that they require that you get your balls and dick removed even if you do not that is also surgery but do you see both of those actions as the same ??

Originally Posted by Rasselas

For once, I agree with you. I've seen my own children, measured and their conception date calculated, all on the screen, and all from the abdomen.

I am sure that you did as did I but according to RACHEL MADCOW this is an internal penetrative procedure to get a view.

Originally Posted by Rasselas

For once, I agree with you. I've seen my own children, measured and their conception date calculated, all on the screen, and all from the abdomen.

Was your wife forced to have those ultrasounds by the government ? or did she agree ?