Big Brother Strong Arms Another American

**michaelr** · 19th August 2011 02:08 PM

@Djinn Lets look at some of these cases in your link.

The Charlotte Observer reported that an afterschool staffer from Charlotte was fired for his Facebook comment that he likes “chillin’ wit my niggas” and a “suggestive exchange” with a female friend. Two probationary teachers faced termination for their Facebook musings that “I’m feeling pissed because I hate my students,” and I’m “teaching in the most ghetto school in Charlotte.”

That need no explanation.

The Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch ran an expose# entitled, “Teachers’ Saucy Web Profiles Risk Jobs.” One 25-year-old female bragged on her MySpace site about being “sexy” and “an aggressive freak in bed.” Another confessed that she recently got drunk, took drugs, went skinny-dipping, and got married.

I am sure this person didn't get fired, but it is inappropriate for minors to read this about there teacher.

The Washington Post published a front page “investigative” piece entitled “When Young Teachers Go Wild on the Web,” quoting one DC teacher’s Facebook page: “Teaching in the DC Public Schools—Lesson #1: Don’t smoke crack while pregnant.” A special ed teacher wrote on her page to a student, “You’re a retard, but I love you,” and posted a photo of herself “sleeping” with a bottle of tequila.

No explanation needed.

I can go on but it is a waste of time. No where in the article does it state that anyone got fired except for Spanierman.

Now Connecticut teacher Jeffrey Spanierman was fired because of two cyber conversations with students on his MySpace page.

That was because it was with communications of inappropriate subject material with minors.

I told you "like" was your key word.

Epic fail. The teacher in question published a political opinion.

**Djinn** · 19th August 2011 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Alias

That doesn't make it right. This is as wrong as wrong can be. This is America. This shit would not have happened in the past.

Yes... In the 1950s, no one was losing their jobs over posts on social media websites.

**Djinn** · 19th August 2011 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by michaelr

... Epic fail. The teacher in question published a political opinion.

And if you read carefully, the teacher (in the subject of this thread) was not fired. He was reassigned, which is well within the school administration's jurisdiction.

This guy chose to tell his students (who were all able to access the post) that gay relationships made him physically nauseous. He made no effort to conceal this from his students. It's easy to see how his gay students, or his students with gay friends, would be seriously bothered by this. So, the school is not only within its rights, but responsible for investigating the matter, and reassigning the teacher in the interim.

19th August 2011 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Djinn

Yes... In the 1950s, no one was losing their jobs over posts on social media websites.

No one was losing their jobs for making public their opinions on gay marriage.

19th August 2011 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Djinn

And if you read carefully, the teacher (in the subject of this thread) was not fired. He was reassigned, which is well within the school administration's jurisdiction.

This guy chose to tell his students (who were all able to access the post) that gay relationships made him physically nauseous. He made no effort to conceal this from his students. It's easy to see how his gay students, or his students with gay friends, would be seriously bothered by this. So, the school is not only within its rights, but responsible for investigating the matter, and reassigning the teacher in the interim.

If someone is bothered by his opinion then that is their problem, not the person who is exercising their constitutional rights.

**Dr Sampson Simpson** · 19th August 2011 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Alias

No one was losing their jobs for making public their opinions on gay marriage.

Because harassment,discrimination and hate was acceptable back then. Gay people were not hired for jobs, were beaten, shunned, called names. Women weren't treated equally, were sexually harassed at work. Black people in places were severely discriminated against. Anybody but white christian males were mistreated. You really want to go to bring up the past in this one?

**Dr Sampson Simpson** · 19th August 2011 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Alias

If someone is bothered by his opinion then that is their problem, not the person who is exercising their constitutional rights.

as has been stated over and over, yet you keep repeating this, the guys constitutional rights were not violated, he wasn't arrested. Nobody's speech is free from repercussions from other people and private companies

**michaelr** · 19th August 2011 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson

as has been stated over and over, yet you keep repeating this, the guys constitutional rights were not violated, he wasn't arrested. Nobody's speech is free from repercussions from other people and private companies

Ever read the constitution? He made a political statement and his government employers fired him.

**michaelr** · 19th August 2011 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Djinn

And if you read carefully, the teacher (in the subject of this thread) was not fired. He was reassigned, which is well within the school administration's jurisdiction.

This guy chose to tell his students (who were all able to access the post) that gay relationships made him physically nauseous. He made no effort to conceal this from his students. It's easy to see how his gay students, or his students with gay friends, would be seriously bothered by this. So, the school is not only within its rights, but responsible for investigating the matter, and reassigning the teacher in the interim.

What? You can't just make shit up OK?! He was suspended, he will not be teaching on Monday, he may never teach again not in that district anyway. As of yet the case is still under investigation.

Jesus Christ!

**zitiboy** · 19th August 2011 03:33 PM

The premise that a facebook page is private is funny. The whole intent is to be unprivate.
Employers hire, pass over for hiring, and fire people all the time after visiting thier facebook page to size them up.
Try posting a picture on facebook of you with a bong and a bottle of Scotch wearing nothing but a Burger King whopper carton over your naughty bits while straddling a female dwarf. See how much your privacy is respected.
In fact, just be a teacher and write "I really want to puke every time I see a spearchucker, those people are untermenchen".
Now you're properly under suspicion of treating black kids in your classes differently than others.
And this guy might be expected to treat the children of same-sex couples differently.
And to top it off, he doesn't even know the Bible too good, I mean, Romans one is discussed here.

Grace Inclusive: Romans One