Thread: LIBYAN REBELS Military Chief Killed......

Libyan rebels say military chief killed - Yahoo! News
Reuters – 38 mins ago.....
BENGHAZI/NALUT, Libya (Reuters) - Libya's rebels said their military commander was shot dead in an incident that remained shrouded in mystery, pointing either to divisions within the movement trying to oust Muammar Gaddafi or to an assassination by Gaddafi loyalists.
Younes was killed in mysterious circumstances on Thursday after being recalled to Benghazi from the front line near the oil port of Brega.
The rebels said Younes was shot dead by assailants after being summoned back from the battlefield.

The killing coincided with the start of a rebel offensive in the west and further international recognition for their cause, which they hope to translate into access to billions of dollars in frozen funds.
Younes was not trusted by all of the rebel leadership due to his previous role in cracking down on anti-Gaddafi dissidents.

But his death is likely to be a severe blow to a movement that has won the backing of some 30 nations but is laboring to make progress on the battlefield.
"A lot of the members of the TNC were Gaddafi loyalists for a very long time. They were in his inner circle and joined the TNC at a later stage," said Geoff Porter from North Africa Risk Consulting.

The fighting has settled into a stalemate in a conflict that Gaddafi has weathered for five months, despite rebel gains, mainly in the east, and hundreds of NATO air raids on his forces and military infrastructure.
A recent flurry of diplomatic activity has yielded little, with the rebels insisting Gaddafi step down as a first step and his government saying his role is non-negotiable.....snip~

This guy was called back to the Rebels Command. According to the AP they are stating this was done by some of Qadhafi's Men. But there is now the suspicion that somebody in the Rebels did it. One of the Rebels reporters is now trying to state that Qadhafi had a sleeper cell within the Rebels themselves. Either this takes away their front line commander. Putting the Rebels even in more disarray. looks like the conflict will continue to be drawn out? Moreover this now leads to one aspect of the Sunni who is backing the play all out. Also as to if the Rebels can even trust one another now.....let alone with trying to get support from the US and UN. Anyone thinking That Obama is going to now have to consider that this act now affects his Policy with Libya. Thoughts?

While it's possible it was a Qadhafi plot to assassinate him, revolutions are notoriously unstable. It could also have been a power play within the rebel forces, payback for some other incident or simply an emotional reaction to some unrelated event.

As we've discussed on Anarchy threads, when the system of laws break down, chaos reigns and all manner of mayhem can ensue.

I doubt it will effect policy. I am surprised at how most of the media is now calling it what it is and that is war. The powers that be will do everything they can to secure all of the oil in the ME.

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

While it's possible it was a Qadhafi plot to assassinate him, revolutions are notoriously unstable. It could also have been a power play within the rebel forces, payback for some other incident or simply an emotional reaction to some unrelated event.

As we've discussed on Anarchy threads, when the system of laws break down, chaos reigns and all manner of mayhem can ensue.

Heya Wind.....this is what the Associated Press is saying.

Fear, confusion among Libya's rebels after killing - Yahoo! News
AP – 1 hr 53 mins ago

BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — Fear and confusion have gripped the de-facto rebel capital in eastern Libya after the rebel military chief was shot dead.Much remains unclear about Younis' death. A rebel leader said Younis was summoned for questioning but shot dead with two aides before he arrived. He said rebels arrested someone for the attack, but had not found the bodies.

Rebel security officers said earlier that they had arrested Younis for questioning about alleged ties to Gadhafi's regime, raising the possibility he died in their custody.
He said two of the commander's aides, both colonels, were also killed in the attack by gunmen and that rebels had arrested the head of the group behind the attack. He did not say what he thought motivated the killers.

Adding to the confusion, the rebels had said hours earlier they had already detained the commander, Abdel-Fattah Younis, on suspicion his family might still have ties to the regime of Moammar Gadhafi, raising questions about whether he might have been assassinated by his own side.
Such a scenario would signal a troubling split within the rebel movement at a time when their forces have failed to make battlefield gains despite nearly four months of NATO airstrikes against Gahdafi's forces. It could also shake the confidence of the United States, Britain and several dozen other nations that have recognized the rebel council as Libya's legitimate leaders.

Hours before the commander's death was announced, rebel military spokesman Mohammed al-Rijali had said Younis was taken for interrogation from his operations room near the front line to the de facto rebel capital of Benghazi in eastern Libya.Later, Abdul-Jalil presented a different scenario, saying Younis had been "summoned" for questioning on "a military matter," but that he had not yet been questioned when he was killed.

Further complicating matters, another security officer, Fadlallah Haroun, told The Associated Press before Abdul-Jalil's announcement that security had found three badly burned bodies. Two of them were dead and one was unconscious, Fadlallah said, adding that one was known to be Younis, though they didn't know which one.

U.S. and British officials said they were unable to confirm details of the reports but were looking into them.....snip~

Looks like the Libyan Rebels are lying their ass off. Also as Reported thru Reuters the Rebels stated they had take n some towns. But as Reuters Reported they saw no evidence of this. It is has become increasingly clear these Rebels not only lied to the UN and Nato Forces. This whole time they were and have been looking for more support from us. Moreover Qadhafi still has people coming out over 100,000 strong.

The Berbers are not going to stand for any Sunni or Muslim brotherhood to be backing or running anything, if they can oust Qadhafi. Doesnt look like the former ruling Dynasty can even get any backing from the other Berbers, besides whats in the Rebels. How do you think this affect the US now?

How can this President present any justification for involving us in this civil war if the Rebels are going to begin killing each other before they can even take the Country. We have already proven the French and the Brits with their Sunni backers have lied from the get go about Qadhafi committing genocide. It's not Genoicde to kill treasonous scum now is it? Its not genocide to kill rebels that will not surrender, is it now?

Originally Posted by Divine Wind

While it's possible it was a Qadhafi plot to assassinate him, revolutions are notoriously unstable. It could also have been a power play within the rebel forces, payback for some other incident or simply an emotional reaction to some unrelated event.

As we've discussed on Anarchy threads, when the system of laws break down, chaos reigns and all manner of mayhem can ensue.

THAT'S CORRECT !! If one studies the so call "Russian" revolution the same thing happned even into the 1930's where Bolshevyks killed the Menshevyks and they both killed the non -Russian populations of the Former Russian Empire and the n ow former CCCP !!

REVOLUTIONARIES ARE REVULTING !!!!

Originally Posted by anonnymous

i doubt it will effect policy. I am surprised at how most of the media is now calling it what it is and that is war. The powers that be will do everything they can to secure all of the oil in the me.

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the powers that be will do everything they can to secure all of the oil in the me.

][/quote] - as they should !!!!!!!

Not only the Miltiary leader of the Rebels but two Colonels that more than likely were running battlefield operations. Looks Like this will Set back the French's play. Hopefully Sarkosy will take a few more trips to Libya. But now that this has happened that fricken ChickenHawk.....will hide his ass back in France. It would be nice to see that they kill Qadhafi.....but before he gets taken out that he is able to take Down that French-Puke Sarkosy. That should open the French's eyes. Hey the Rest of World Doesnt give a shit about their Socialistic government. That is evidently clear that the French couldnt win a military engagement on thier own and if it was handed to them on a silver fuckin platter.

Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic

Not only the Miltiary leader of the Rebels but two Colonels that more than likely were running battlefield operations. Looks Like this will Set back the French's play. Hopefully Sarkosy will take a few more trips to Libya. But now that this has happened that fricken ChickenHawk.....will hide his ass back in France. It would be nice to see that they kill Qadhafi.....but before he gets taken out that he is able to take Down that French-Puke Sarkosy. That should open the French's eyes. Hey the Rest of World Doesnt give a shit about their Socialistic government. That is evidently clear that the French couldnt win a military engagement on thier own and if it was handed to them on a silver fuckin platter.

Sounds like inter - tribe warfare , right ?

Originally Posted by anonnymous

I doubt it will effect policy. I am surprised at how most of the media is now calling it what it is and that is war. The powers that be will do everything they can to secure all of the oil in the ME.

It should require comments from this White House Staff. We Recognized these dipshits and then went back on word with what Gates had stated. Which was Over His Dead body that these Rebels would get any aid or weapons from the US. Now we have some sort of validation as to what Gates was talking about. How can the Rebels be even trusted,now. They are stupid enuff to believe that the whole World now will go with that Qadhafi had a sleeper cell within their group.

I think not.....bet the AU will be on that shit with the UN. Plus again Reuters have has proved before that these Rebels have no problem falsifying information. More important is not the Rebels Lying to us. But the French. We need to be all up in Sarkosy's face and telling France to shut the fuck-up and just go home and get ready for that IMF bailout.

Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic

It should require comments from this White House Staff. We Recognized these dipshits and then went back on word with what Gates had stated. Which was Over His Dead body that these Rebels would get any aid or weapons from the US. Now we have some sort of validation as to what Gates was talking about. How can the Rebels be even trusted,now. They are stupid enuff to believe that the whole World now will go with that Qadhafi had a sleeper cell within their group.

I think not.....bet the AU will be on that shit with the UN. Plus again Reuters have has proved before that these Rebels have no problem falsifying information. More important is not the Rebels Lying to us. But the French. We need to be all up in Sarkosy's face and telling France to shut the fuck-up and just go home and get ready for that IMF bailout.

It's as good a reason as any to disengage but the MIC has plenty of pull on this one. The CIA will pick a new rebel leader and keep on keeping on until they are forced to disengage. The policy of controlling the ME oil supply will carry on.