Thread: S. Africa leader:S. Africa leader says Libya accepts cease-fire plan

S. Africa leader says Libya accepts cease-fire plan - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com
JUST BREAKING MORE TO COME

AJDABIYA, Libya — A delegation of African leaders said Sunday that their Libyan counterpart Moammar Gadhafi accepted their "road map" for a cease-fire with rebels, whom they will meet with Monday

CNN REPORTING SAME :
S. African president: Gadhafi accepts terms of agreement

Tripoli, Libya (CNN) -- Embattled Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, in negotiations with the African Union, has agreed in principal to a deal that would end the conflict in the nation he's ruled for 42 years, South African President Jacob Zuma told reporters Sunday.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa...ex.html?hpt=T1

Rebel leaders "not so quick "
[QUOTEopposition leaders have voiced skepticism that mediation would end the conflict in a way that would satisfy their goals, which include Gadhafi's ouster.

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What you think about that SB.....UN Sec.Gen will go to Cairo and at the Head-Quarters for the Arab League to discuss what is going on in Libya.(what the French can't protect him) How do you think that plays out with the Sunni trying to get a puppet government in Libya? Better yet with the Africian Union? He has repeatedly ignored the AU and countries in Africa.

Althought LT. Gen Bouchard can shut the fuck up with all that bullshit about Qadhafi's troops hiding amongst the civillian population. One, Qadhafi has LOYAL supporters who will put themselves out there for their Brother-Leader! Two Rueters, CNN and MSDNC validated the rebels were doing it.

Althought I did note that over the weekend that NATO forced-grounded a Rebel Mig they put into the Air. That the UN has decided that the Rebels cannot have planes either. Plus the rebels were attacking when they UN ordered Qadhafi to cease-fire. Others around the world were seeing the play that Qadhafi was having his hands tied behind his back just in order to fight back.

What else is not being mentioned is the groups of people from Tanzania, Somilia and Uganda have been entering into Libya to fight against the UN and the US. Althought they did say they found ID's from Syria and other places. Still the UN will call all those entering the fight on Qadhafi's side as mercenaries.....which again is not the truth. Just listen to them all.....All of them calling Qadhafi Brother-Leader. Even heads of other African Countries. Plus the article does mention that Qadhafi had doled out money to them. The Interesting bit was that Libya is on the Peace Council.....or were! That the UN still fell for the French's BS and decided to war against a country sitting on the Peace Council.

Is that Ironic or what.....Qadhafi the Madman, Dictator, Ruler of the Country of Libya. Yet the UN and other countries allowed Libya to be on the UN Peace Council????? Which he has been on for the last 5 yrs and no one was calling for his head. No one was running around stating he was committing all these atrocities. Who else is on that Council and is anything like they say Qadhafi is?

Ok MMC EXPALIN THIS ::

Some youths, captured in recent days by rebels, said they were teenagers and secondary-school students who had been forced to leave their homes in nearby towns and villages and undergo mandatory weeklong military training before fighting in Misrata, according to the second eyewitness.

Forcing children to fight !! Come on now that has not been done since the Vitenamese Commies and the Nazi's during the Hitler days ! That's very low. You defending that ?

Originally Posted by Stefan Bandera

Ok MMC EXPALIN THIS ::

Forcing children to fight !! Come on now that has not been done since the Vitenamese Commies and the Nazi's during the Hitler days ! That's very low. You defending that ?

You haven't been keeping up, Stephan Bandera. Child soldiers have been a fixture in Africa for decades--in Sudan, Uganda, Chad, Congo (Zaire), Angola, Sierra Leone, and Liberia, among other places.

Originally Posted by Stefan Bandera

Ok MMC EXPALIN THIS ::

Forcing children to fight !! Come on now that has not been done since the Vienamese Commies and the Nazi's during the Hitler days ! That's very low. You defending taht ?

Think Qadhafi has to put any weapons in the hands of kids from Somalia or Tanzania? I don't fall for all of the propaganda put out by both sides. Not to mention any bedoiun tribes will fight to the last male. Even those not aligned to Qadhafi nor the rebels. Think Qadhafi can force other bedoiun males to serve in his Army?

First off I am not defending Qadhafi.....second telling it like it is, especially when we were being lied to is not supporting Qadhafi. Third most know when 3/4ths of a Continent is out publicly calling him their Brother Leader and they are Presidents and Heads of other Countries and have been against the No Fly Zone....boycotting meetings by the West with their Sunni Counterparts. That there is reverence for him by the Entire Continent. Turkey is working on a Cease-Fire too but notice they are not pushing the Agenda that Qadhafi must go. Calling it a Civil-War.

You don't find it funny that all this shit has come out after the fact SB? Where was the Press mentioning Qadhafi and Libya being on the UN Peace Council 2 months ago before all this began. Althought now all the Press is calling it a Civil War, except for the US Media! The Entire AFP calls it a civil war. But 2 months ago no one wanted to say that.
Also no one wanted to mention the fact that Libya had been in the UN bitching about the French and what they were doing in the Ivory Coast and more importantly Algeria. They were also bitching about the UK in the Congo! Not just Libya, check out all the complaints filed in the UN by the African Union.....
Was it okay for the French to recognize the Rebels as the Official Government of Libya without telling anybody until after the fact? Gates and Obama did the right thing by not recognizing them! Gates has pretty much said over his dead body.....the rebels are not getting arm from us.....why? Because he knows later it will come about AQ, the MB, and the Mulah running some of those Rebels, and it is his job to protect this Country and the President. Can't have deniability if the President is out on front street giving Aid to terrorists that are on some list. Doing what Gates has.....gives the President that deniability.

Is it okay for our UN Ambassdor to be duped, out played, and now Compromised by not only other Foreign Countries but by her own Admission and her personal feelings about Darfur? Note she was the one that forced Clinton to have to do a 180 on her statements.

Is it okay for the EU to weaken us by having our resources and Military Tech used up? Who put out the most shit for Iraq and Afghanistan? Think it was the EU? Using rebellion and uprisings to escalate further enhancement while being able to make moves under the deception of humantarian reasons, while citing our friends asked us to help them.

Then we learn why we backed off the Sunnis and why the UN has not done anything about Bahrain, Yemen, and Oman. Then learn what the French were doing in the Ivory Coast, who by the way did the same shit with Outtawa as they did with these Rebels. That the French fucked up with Algeria, Morocco, and Libya.

Your ex-military SB I know you don't believe all that shit coming out from the rebels. Do you? WTF its the same damn thing that the Viet-Cong were doing when they released Statements to the Press. The only difference is the UN releasing their statements and the Way the US media played it out. Now the AFP is leading the way.....and it's getting harder for the US media to keep avoiding calling it what it is.....The acts committed by the French with us, over this shows their agenda supercedes ours. As Gates stated there was only Interests related to the region. Meaning Control of the Suez.

Of Course there is also the matter of Egypt.....and Qatar setting up a bank for these rebels and shipping them weapons. The UK states they have passed a ban on sending weapons to the M.E. and Libya. So the UK will not arm the rebels either!

Originally Posted by TheHighForester

You haven't been keeping up, Stephan Bandera. Child soldiers have been a fixture in Africa for decades--in Sudan, Uganda, Chad, Congo (Zaire), Angola, Sierra Leone, and Liberia, among other places.

I tried to give you a Thanks HF.....So Thanks for validating such!!!!!. Also with my response you will note what I put about the Bedoiun and if Qadhafi can force those tribes not aligned to him to serve in his Army. Or on the fact of his supporters not having to be forced to be put by his military tech.

Originally Posted by TheHighForester

You haven't been keeping up, Stephan Bandera. Child soldiers have been a fixture in Africa for decades--in Sudan, Uganda, Chad, Congo (Zaire), Angola, Sierra Leone, and Liberia, among other places.

I keep forgetting about the lower parts of Africa. Yes you are correct there are many cases of child "soldiers". Sick, sad, bad......

How long until Qadhafi gets his own reality show? Or should he be a special guest on a current one?

Originally Posted by TheHighForester

You haven't been keeping up, Stephan Bandera. Child soldiers have been a fixture in Africa for decades--in Sudan, Uganda, Chad, Congo (Zaire), Angola, Sierra Leone, and Liberia, among other places.

Whilst this is true, I find the children fighting thing as the "babies being thrown form incubators" thing, propaganda.