Thread: About that Troop Surge, looks like the Democrats were wrong AGAIN!

I don't care who is wrong or who is right, I don't give 2 craps about speculation into Democrats, I am glad that the violence is down...at this stage of this war, it is great news.

Originally Posted by Feslin

WTF does piousness have to do with this?

Anywho, turns out Americans are the one's who blew the hell out of that country. We're obligated to fix it.

Why? According to the administration they were a threat to us.

If someone threatens me, and I deck him, do I have an obligation help him up? NO.

If someone threatens my family with a gun and I shoot him first am I obligated to pay his hospital bill? No.

So remind me again, oh libertarian one, why we must provide this socialist welfare for Iraq.

Originally Posted by johnflesh

I don't care who is wrong or who is right, I don't give 2 craps about speculation into Democrats, I am glad that the violence is down...at this stage of this war, it is great news.

I also heard that there is also a noticeable decrease in wife beatings when the cops are standing on the front porch.

Originally Posted by Johnlocke

Why? According to the administration they were a threat to us.

Aaaaaand?

If someone threatens me, and I deck him, do I have an obligation help him up? NO.

No.

If someone threatens my family with a gun and I shoot him first am I obligated to pay his hospital bill? No.

No.

So remind me again, oh libertarian one, why we must provide this socialist welfare for Iraq.

It's not welfare. Welfare means giving to people for no reason other than that they're poor.

This is giving to people because we blew their country up for no real reason.

Originally Posted by Feslin

Aaaaaand?



No.



No.



It's not welfare. Welfare means giving to people for no reason other than that they're poor.

This is giving to people because we blew their country up for no real reason.

Well, if you blew up their country that makes them pretty damn poor doesn't it? If not, let them pay for their own rebuilding and security.

Originally Posted by Johnlocke

Well, if you blew up their country that makes them pretty damn poor doesn't it?

And it puts them in tons of danger they shouldn't be in.

If not, let them pay for their own rebuilding and security.

It's not so much an issue of money as of loyal manpower.

Originally Posted by Feslin

And it puts them in tons of danger they shouldn't be in.


It's not so much an issue of money as of loyal manpower.

And that was their own fault for supporting a despot like Saddam. (BTW I'm just quoting the conservative/libertarian argument on WHY we went to war and pounded the piss out of them in the first place.) It gets back to my fight analogy. I don't owe it to the guy I deck to pick him up. We don't owe it to the Iraqis.

So since I am now in "agreement" with the conservatives, that this was all about deposing Saddam, then it follows that we owe them NOTHING. Time to go home.

Originally Posted by johnlocke

And that was their own fault for supporting a despot like Saddam. (BTW I'm just quoting the conservative/libertarian argument on WHY we went to war and pounded the piss out of them in the first place.) It gets back to my fight analogy. I don't owe it to the guy I deck to pick him up. We don't owe it to the Iraqis.

Umm, that's not the libertarian argument at all.

Nice try though.

Every libertarian and Libertarian I've ever talked to thinks we shouldn't have gone in.

Hell, Ron Paul was one of the few politicians who opposed it.

Originally Posted by johnlocke

I also heard that there is also a noticeable decrease in wife beatings when the cops are standing on the front porch.

Point taken bro.

Originally Posted by johnlocke

I also heard that there is also a noticeable decrease in wife beatings when the cops are standing on the front porch.

Well now the Iraqi police can stand on the porch.