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    What I seriously cannot get over is the fact that the top floor in each building hit the ground almost as fast as a ball would if dropped right beside it.



    Each building has many VERTICAL core columns that run from bedrock to the top floor. These core columns are fastened and welded together all the way up making them virtually one solid length of steel from bedrock to the top floor. They acted as if they did not even exist to provide hardly any resistance. Somehow the top floor in each building hit the ground almost as fast as a ball would if dropped right beside it even though it had to work its way all the way down through all these VERTICAL support columns.



    NONE of the debunking propaganda addresses the VERTICAL core columns and actually mislead by focusing on the horizontal floor trusses.



    The VERTICAL core columns are the many tree trunks of the steel structured buildings and the HORIZONTAL trusses the debunking propaganda focuses on are the tree branches of the steel structured buildings.







    How did our country evolve to get debunking propaganda to sway votes against new investigations....instead of just having a new investigation?






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    Short answer:



    Steel has a high melting point... but the temperatures required to weaken steel are far, far lower. Under pressure from the weight of the upper floors, the heated steel would bow and break. A few years ago, an old bowling alley near my office burned to the ground. Before they tore down the wreckage, I saw a massive steel support I-beam that had been in the roof. It was not load-bearing... the bowling alley was one-story. And the fire was conventional - no fuel, no accelerants. And still, the once-straight I-beam was visibly warped from the heat.



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    [quote name='Djinn' date='08 March 2010 - 07:37 PM' timestamp='1268105822' post='126726']

    Short answer:



    Steel has a high melting point... but the temperatures required to weaken steel are far, far lower. Under pressure from the weight of the upper floors, the heated steel would bow and break. A few years ago, an old bowling alley near my office burned to the ground. Before they tore down the wreckage, I saw a massive steel support I-beam that had been in the roof. It was not load-bearing... the bowling alley was one-story. And the fire was conventional - no fuel, no accelerants. And still, the once-straight I-beam was visibly warped from the heat.



    Details here.

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    Weak steel will never cause a collapse at free fall speed.

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    [quote name='Djinn' date='08 March 2010 - 10:37 PM' timestamp='1268105822' post='126726']

    Short answer:



    Steel has a high melting point... but the temperatures required to weaken steel are far, far lower. Under pressure from the weight of the upper floors, the heated steel would bow and break. A few years ago, an old bowling alley near my office burned to the ground. Before they tore down the wreckage, I saw a massive steel support I-beam that had been in the roof. It was not load-bearing... the bowling alley was one-story. And the fire was conventional - no fuel, no accelerants. And still, the once-straight I-beam was visibly warped from the heat.



    Details here.

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    Even if there was some weakening of the steel then the top of the tree would topple over off of the resistance of the many VERTICAL columns that run from bedrock to the top floor.

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    Even if there was some weakening of the steel, then the top of the tree would topple over off of the resistance of the many VERTICAL columns that run from bedrock to the top floor.



    The Anti-Truths(Anti-Christs?) posting hard swaying votes against a new investigation ignore this.





    Why does Richard Gage get so ridiculed by the masses like Galileo was?



    That's what stupid sheeple do when the messenger brings information that questions the very core of their beliefs....even to the point of calling them conspiracy kooks, nutjobs etc and perhaps even escalating to the point where the masses of sheeple lock up the messengers.....only to find out years later what the truth is.



    I just try and save the masses of sheeple in society from this shame in hopes they simply ask for a new investigation to clear up the many disturbing descrepencies...




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    The government want people to believe that all the columns became weak because of massive fire. Well for a building to collapse at free fall or near free fall then all of the columns would have to be equally heated at the exact same time. Thats is fucking insane....in fact believing that is insane.

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    [quote name='michaelr' date='09 March 2010 - 10:01 AM' timestamp='1268150518' post='126951']

    The government want people to believe that all the columns became weak because of massive fire. Well for a building to collapse at free fall or near free fall then all of the columns would have to be equally heated at the exact same time. Thats is fucking insane....in fact believing that is insane.

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    All of the columns could not have collapsed at the same time whether you think there was an inside job or not. The explosives (at least some of them) on the impact floors would have been destroyed by the impacts of the airplanes.



    And if there were explosives on the core throughout the entire length of the towers, we would have heard them. We did not hear them. Also, large parts of the core were still standing a few seconds after the rest of the building collapsed.

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    [quote name='Conservative15' date='09 March 2010 - 08:59 AM' timestamp='1268153954' post='126966']

    All of the columns could not have collapsed at the same time whether you think there was an inside job or not. The explosives (at least some of them) on the impact floors would have been destroyed by the impacts of the airplanes.



    And if there were explosives on the core throughout the entire length of the towers, we would have heard them. We did not hear them. Also, large parts of the core were still standing a few seconds after the rest of the building collapsed.

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    ya ya ya, same old stuff.

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    [quote name='Conservative15' date='09 March 2010 - 11:59 AM' timestamp='1268153954' post='126966']

    All of the columns could not have collapsed at the same time [/quote]



    Then the towers would have fallen at an angle, as opposed to the pancake effect commonly displayed in controled demolitions.
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    [quote name='Inkslinger' date='09 March 2010 - 11:04 AM' timestamp='1268154265' post='126969']

    Then the towers would have fallen at an angle, as opposed to the pancake effect commonly displayed in controled demolitions.

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    I'm talking about a controlled way and at collapse initiation... Michaelr (correct me if I'm wrong) claims that the symetrical collapse was caused because the core columns were all detonated at the SAME time.



    In my opinion, after the collapse started, it was chaotic and we can't really know exactly how each part collapsed... It appears fairly straight down. The top of the south tower did tip noticeably. Also, large sections of the core (many stories tall) were still standing after the majority of at least one of the towers (possibly both; I would have to look into it again) collapsed. So we know the core did not have explosives throughout the entire length of the core unless they failed to detonate. And if they failed to detonate, then explosives on every section of the core were not the cause of a symetrical-looking collapse.


 
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