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    Re: The North American 'Soviet' Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Shadow View Post
    socialism works.


    marxist communism & russian communism & nazi fascist social dont work


    they require their people to stop thinking

    socialism in small amounts works

    dont think socialism like nazi

    think social like labor laws. that is what true socialism is
    Communism is supposed to be the final result of socialism. Socialism is just a means of acheiving a stateless and egalitarian society. This of course, will never happen, just as a truly capitalist society will never happen. Both extremes, capitalism and socialism, ignore human susceptibility to corruption.

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    Re: The North American 'Soviet' Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Ausinus View Post
    Communism is supposed to be the final result of socialism. Socialism is just a means of acheiving a stateless and egalitarian society. This of course, will never happen, just as a truly capitalist society will never happen. Both extremes, capitalism and socialism, ignore human susceptibility to corruption.
    IMO, when socialism is corrupted it becomes tyranical or like communism when capitalism becomes corrupt it becomes tyranical or like socialism.

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    Re: The North American 'Soviet' Union

    Quote Originally Posted by lakeman View Post
    IMO, when socialism is corrupted it becomes tyranical or like communism when capitalism becomes corrupt it becomes tyranical or like socialism.
    True communism is a stateless society - so socialism cannot become communism in that fashion.

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    Re: The North American 'Soviet' Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Shadow View Post
    socialism works.


    marxist communism & russian communism & nazi fascist social dont work


    they require their people to stop thinking

    socialism in small amounts works

    dont think socialism like nazi

    think social like labor laws. that is what true socialism is

    Socialism expects men to be worker bees which is exactly why it has never and probably will never work.

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    Re: The North American 'Soviet' Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Ausinus View Post
    True communism is a stateless society - so socialism cannot become communism in that fashion.

    True communism has never existed. I was making a loose comparison to governments that exert extreme control over the means of production.


 
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