Thread: It's getting tough to be a stupid college student....

....or a stupid, lazy or deceitful voter:

New Hampshire's new Republican state House speaker is pretty clear about what he thinks of college kids and how they vote. They're "foolish," Speaker William O'Brien said in a recent speech to a tea party group.

"Voting as a liberal. That's what kids do," he added, his comments taped by a state Democratic Party staffer and posted on YouTube. Students lack "life experience," and "they just vote their feelings."

New Hampshire House Republicans are pushing for new laws that would prohibit many college students from voting in the state - and effectively keep some from voting at all.

for all the dirt on those nasty Republicans, read the three page article at: In states, parties clash over voting laws that would affect college students, others

I'm all for these measures. I want people to have to make a conscious effort to cast their ballot.

I DON'T want lazy, stupid voters. Look what it got us in 2008.

odd.. some people actually wanting a less representative democracy. Seems anti-murcan

http://www.politicsforum.com/general...ters-vote.html



So to re-cap, those to be disenfranchised are; American college students and Americans that rent.

Originally Posted by JoJoGunne

....or a stupid, lazy or deceitful voter:



I'm all for these measures. I want people to have to make a conscious effort to cast their ballot.

I DON'T want lazy, stupid voters. Look what it got us in 2008.

This is one of the more idiotic and arrogant posts I have read at a political forum. The Democratic process MUST include all people, even those you disagree with, or it completely and totally undermines the Democratic process. Such an idea is anti-democratic and silly. It would be like me claiming people in the south should not be able to vote because they are inbred hicks whose IQs are too low to ever understand things, no matter what their age. The problem is, that is not how representative government works. I do not get to choose to disenfranchise those I disagree with!! Shame on you for even thinking otherwise.

Originally Posted by frodly

This is one of the more idiotic and arrogant posts I have read at a political forum. The Democratic process MUST include all people, even those you disagree with, or it completely and totally undermines the Democratic process. Such an idea is anti-democratic and silly. It would be like me claiming people in the south should not be able to vote because they are inbred hicks whose IQs are too low to ever understand things, no matter what their age. The problem is, that is not how representative government works. I do not get to choose to disenfranchise those I disagree with!! Shame on you for even thinking otherwise.

Who has said anything about disenfranchising anybody? Nobody is being denied the right to vote in any of these measures.

But, I guess if your too dumb or lazy to figure out how to legally cast your vote, then maybe you really shouldn't have the right to vote.

Originally Posted by Tedminator

odd.. some people actually wanting a less representative democracy. Seems anti-murcan

http://www.politicsforum.com/general...ters-vote.html



So to re-cap, those to be disenfranchised are; American college students and Americans that rent.

LOL!!

What's the deal, dude? You got a new Liberal debating tactic? You know, mixing up threads? This is the second time you've done it this morning. You going to answer my post in the other thread like you did earlier?

Originally Posted by JoJoGunne

What's the deal, dude?

It shows a pattern of wanting to disenfranchise American voters.

Originally Posted by JoJoGunne

You going to answer my post in the other thread like you did earlier?

which are you refering to?

Originally Posted by JoJoGunne

....or a stupid, lazy or deceitful voter:



I'm all for these measures. I want people to have to make a conscious effort to cast their ballot.

I DON'T want lazy, stupid voters. Look what it got us in 2008.

In fact, that is exactly the goal you stated, and the outcome that O'Brien is seeking. He says college students don't vote right(in other words, they don't vote in a way he approves of), therefore they are passing laws aimed at keeping students from voting!! Did you read the article? Heck, did you read what you wrote? Disenfranchising students is exactly what the intention is. Are you purposely being misleading and obtuse? If not, I worry about you.

Originally Posted by JoJoGunne

....or a stupid, lazy or deceitful voter:



I'm all for these measures. I want people to have to make a conscious effort to cast their ballot.

I DON'T want lazy, stupid voters. Look what it got us in 2008.

More anti-Americanism from the right. Deny the vote to people you think are inclined to not vote as you want them to. And you clowns have the fuckin' nerve to cry about the "nanny-state" and "government control over personal decision???

Originally Posted by JoJoGunne

Who has said anything about disenfranchising anybody?

Oh please.... You really think they are going to come right out and call it that?

Originally Posted by JoJoGunne

Nobody is being denied the right to vote in any of these measures.

Wrong. Try reading your own posted articles, JoJo:

New Hampshire House Republicans are pushing for new laws that would prohibit many college students from voting in the state - and effectively keep some from voting at all.


One bill would permit students to vote in their college towns only if they or their parents had previously established permanent residency there - requiring all others to vote in the states or other New Hampshire towns they come from. Another bill would end Election Day registration, which O'Brien said unleashes swarms of students on polling places, creating opportunities for fraud.

Now, I don't have a problem with getting rid of election day registration. There should be plenty of opportunity for a student to be able to register say, at least 30 days prior to an election.

But prohibiting students from voting in a given city unless they can show that they or their parents are/were permanent residents of said city? Forcing them to perhaps miss days of classes to go "home" to vote? Preposterous.

If you are in a residence hall, or an apartment, even as a college student, you have established residency. After all, your home is where you live, sleep, eat and get mail, including bills. Even moreso for out of state students, whom, if they drive a car, are generally required to obtain a drivers license from the state where they are attending school, if they reside in the state longer than 30 days.

What the hell else would define permanent residency for you, and permit you to register to vote in that state or city?

Originally Posted by JoJoGunne

But, I guess if your too dumb or lazy to figure out how to legally cast your vote, then maybe you really shouldn't have the right to vote.

Dumb and lazy indeed. That perfectly describes the politician who submitted it for consideration. Not to mention underhanded and dishonest.