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Old 10-30-2007, 09:24 PM   #1
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Default Zogby poll - Bomb Iran!

Does this scare the crap out of anyone but me?

Bomb Iran, majority of Americans says in new poll

Despite President Bush's perpetually abysmal approval ratings, it appears his increasingly hostile rhetoric against Iran has drummed up enough fear of a "nuclear holocaust" or a World War III that a majority of Americans are in favor of a US strike against the country aimed a curtailing its apparent nuclear ambitions, a new poll shows.

The Zogby International survey shows 52 percent of Americans would support a strike on Iran, while 53 percent expect President Bush to launch such an attack before the end of his second term. Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton is voters' No. 1 choice to deal with Iran, with 21 percent saying they would like to see her take on Tehran from the White House. Republican Rudy Giuliani was voters' second choice, with 15 percent.
Just 29 percent of Americans think the US should not attack Iran, with one in five people unsure about military action. Of those who would support a strike, 28 percent believe military action should wait until the next president is in office, while 23 percent want to see Bush let lose US missiles against Iran.
The poll results were viewed with a "Here we go again" attitude from bloggers chagrined at the apparent lack of lessons learned by Americans as the war launched against another hostile Middle Eastern regime stretches towards its fifth year.

"It is utterly stunning that, after the great difficulties we have clearly faced in Iraq (a situation far from finished, by the way), that an absolute majority would favor a strike on Iran at this time," writes Dr. Steven Taylor at PoliBlog. "Even if we assume that the die-hard 25%-30% who still approve of the way the President is doing his job also are in favor of such a strike, where do the other 27%-22% come from to get the pro-strike total to 52%?"
The support for an Iranian strike coincides with substantial fears of further terrorist attacks demonstrated in the Zogby poll. More than two-thirds of Americans (68 percent) believe another terrorist attack is likely on US soil and nearly one-in three believe such a strike will come before 2010.
Polls conducted prior to the invasion of Iraq showed larger majorities of Americans in favor of military action, and around 80 percent of Americans believed Iraq posed a threat to the United States in late 2002 and early 2003.

Don Surber, blogging for West Virginia's Charleston Daily Mail compared the speculation over a strike on Iran to another showdown over nuclear proliferation nearly half a century ago.

"I was in grade school when the Cuban Missile Crisis happened 45 Octobers ago. I was gung-ho for taking Castro out. Wiser heads prevailed — in the Soviet Union as well as the United States," he writes. "The security of the world rests on American shoulders. I’d bet against a military strike. There are enough wiser heads on both sides."

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Old 10-30-2007, 09:28 PM   #2
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Looks like the scare tactics of this administration has worked. People can be such sheep!

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I don't believe in Polls, they are stupid and tell whatever story the creator wants.

Who conducted this one? I'm guessing Hans Christian Anderson....Anderson...

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I don't believe in Polls, they are stupid and tell whatever story the creator wants.

Who conducted this one? I'm guessing Hans Christian Anderson....Anderson...
Zogby is the best when it comes to polls - I wouldn't bother with most, but they are very reputable. Look em up!

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Zogby is the best when it comes to polls - I wouldn't bother with most, but they are very reputable. Look em up!
Maybe they are, but I will never trust a poll, or any sampling of public opinion.

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Zogby is the best when it comes to polls - I wouldn't bother with most, but they are very reputable. Look em up!
I would agree, funny damn thing ask these well intended Americans where Iran is on a map with no labels. I would bet the most of them have no clue.

We as a nation better start learning, and the first thing we can learn is how to shut the TV off, or at least do a little research on the news we receive!

IRAN is no threat to us or to it's neighbors, hell it's been about a 150 years since they attacked a country!

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Looks like the scare tactics of this administration has worked. People can be such sheep!
Typical. You think that over half of the country is being manipulated by the scary boogey man of a government, but you somehow, being in that small minority, have clarity that the rest of America doesn't. It can't have anything to do with a rational look at the facts and then forming an informed opinion about the world. Its got to be manipulation. How else would anyone not think like you?

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Typical. You think that over half of the country is being manipulated by the scary boogey man of a government, but you somehow, being in that small minority, have clarity that the rest of America doesn't. It can't have anything to do with a rational look at the facts and then forming an informed opinion about the world. Its got to be manipulation. How else would anyone not think like you?
Man I expected this from you. Under the NPT Iran is allowed to have peaceful nuclear energy, they are signatures as are we. They say that they do not want weapons, they do however want nationalized oil production and sell it for EUROS not dollars, in fact they have both. Bad for them as this administration will have no part of it. So they make up stories and take words out of context to scare us. Now it looks like there going to get their way, they are idiots. It's a fool who is loosing two wars and wants to wage a third.

If these clowns attack, expect oil at 200 dollars a barrel, do you with all your wisdom think that our shaky economy can handle that?

Now I can't wait for your Fox response, I'm sure that you will not let me down.

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Man I expected this from you. Under the NPT Iran is allowed to have peaceful nuclear energy, they are signatures as are we. They say that they do not want weapons, they do however want nationalized oil production and sell it for EUROS not dollars, in fact they have both. Bad for them as this administration will have no part of it. So they make up stories and take words out of context to scare us. Now it looks like there going to get their way, they are idiots. It's a fool who is loosing two wars and wants to wage a third.

If these clowns attack, expect oil at 200 dollars a barrel, do you with all your wisdom think that our shaky economy can handle that?

Now I can't wait for your Fox response, I'm sure that you will not let me down.
You can't have "peaceful nuclear power" without the ability to change it into a weapon fairly quickly. This poll comes down to the question of whether or not people feel that the Ayatollah should possess the ability to make a nuclear weapon, and it seems that the answer is no. Well, I should revise that. There is also the issue of whether or not Iran should continue to provide arms and training to anti-American terrorist groups in Iraq. I'd have to answer no to that one too.

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Typical. You think that over half of the country is being manipulated by the scary boogey man of a government, but you somehow, being in that small minority, have clarity that the rest of America doesn't. It can't have anything to do with a rational look at the facts and then forming an informed opinion about the world. Its got to be manipulation. How else would anyone not think like you?
Do you think a sample poll even comes close to representing the country as a whole? Frankly I think polls are as useful as tits on a boar. But we Americans just love to buy into them. Just as we love to suck on the teat of fear that both sodes feed us. Fear mongering is a time honored tactic that seems to work. No matter who uses it.

Bomb Iran? Well, if we want to appear dumber than we already do, it would be the go to move I guess.
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